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The Psychology Podcast

The Scientific Realities of Biological Sex || Debra Soh, Marco Del Giudice, & Buck Angel

The Psychology Podcast

iHeartPodcasts

Science, Social Sciences

4.42K Ratings

🗓️ 16 March 2023

⏱️ 94 minutes

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Summary

Today we welcome Debra Soh, Marco Del Giudice, and Buck Angel.

Dr. Debra Soh is a neuroscientist who specializes in gender, sex, and sexual orientation. She holds a PhD in neuroscience with scientific expertise in paraphilias, hypersexuality, and child sexual abuse prevention. As a journalist, her writing has appeared in several publications like the New York Post, the Wall Street Journal, and many more. In 2020, she published her first book called “The End of Gender”.

Dr. Marco Del Giudice is an associate professor in the Department of Psychology at the University of New Mexico, Albuquerque. He received his bachelors in psychology and doctorate in cognitive science from the University of Turin in Italy. He has over a hundred scientific publications on personality, motivation, attachment styles, psychopathology, sex differences, and other topics. In 2016 he was granted the Early Career Award of the Human Behavior and Evolution Society (HBES).

Buck Angel is an adult-film producer, performer and motivational speaker who also works as an advocate, educator, lecturer and writer. He has served on the Board of Directors of the Woodhull Sexual Freedom Alliance from 2010 to 2016. Born as a biological female, Buck conquered a lifetime of adversity to undergo his transformation to become the healthy, happy, self-confident man that he is today. Buck created the first FTM adult website in 2003, and became the first FTM adult entertainer and film producer. In 2007, Buck made history again as the first transexual man to ever win the AVN transexual performer of the year award. 

In this episode, I talk to Debra, Marco, and Buck about the scientific realities of biological sex. There is considerable opposition against the idea that sex is binary. But denying science because it doesn’t seem to fit our gender beliefs can be dangerous. As ironic as it seems, when we acknowledge biology, we can accommodate more variation better than our preconceived, rigid social norms.

Website: drdebrasoh.com , marcodg.net , buckangel.com

Twitter: @DrDebraSoh & @BuckAngel

 

Topics

04:08 Dr. Marco’s background and expertise 

06:41 Dr. Debra’s background and expertise

07:48 Buck’s background and expertise

10:02 Shift from ‘transexual’ to ‘transgender’ 

12:35 The separation of sex and gender

21:33 Why feminists reject biology

27:27 “It is transphobic to deny biology”

30:51 Extreme trans activism 

40:00 Transgenders vs TERFs

43:07 Being gender fluid is trendy

44:18 Losing the nuances in gender

47:49 The evolutionary perspective of traits

55:05 Dismantling the definition of woman

58:46 De-transitioning and safe healthcare

1:07:03 The construction of gender identity

1:14:25 Social transitioning through pronouns

1:22:32 Non-binary and non-specific labels

1:28:42 Prioritizing truth over feelings

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Transcript

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0:00.0

If I did not acknowledge my biology, I would not be trans.

0:03.8

The whole reason you are trans is because of biology.

0:06.2

I mean, it's so simple yet, it's being so twisted.

0:09.1

Words are being twisted.

0:10.6

Ideas of our biology are being twisted.

0:13.0

All of those things to me feel like gaslighting.

0:17.2

Hello, and welcome to the Psychology Podcast.

0:19.9

The following episode is part of the

0:21.6

Making Sense of Sex and Gender series on this podcast.

0:25.0

In this series, we try to make sense

0:26.8

of the distinction between sex and gender

0:29.0

and cover trans issues in a very thoughtful and nuanced fashion.

0:33.3

We have balanced discussions from multiple perspectives,

0:35.9

including scientists, activists, and a leading feminism scholar.

0:39.8

This series will hopefully expand your mind

0:42.2

and help you make sense of the current heated debates

0:44.6

surrounding the distinctions between sex and gender,

0:47.4

as well as transgender issues.

0:49.4

The aim is to turn down the temperature

0:51.4

on this very heated topic and increase understanding

0:55.1

and integrate truth with love.

0:57.6

I hope you will listen to this entire series

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