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10% Happier with Dan Harris

The Science of Emotion Regulation: How It Impacts Health, Performance, and Relationships. | Ethan Kross

10% Happier with Dan Harris

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Dan Harris, Health & Fitness, Mindfulness, Dharma, Mental Health, Meditation

4.612.2K Ratings

🗓️ 5 February 2025

⏱️ 87 minutes

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Summary

Practical strategies for managing our emotional lives.


Dr. Ethan Kross, author of the international bestseller Chatter, is one of the world’s leading experts on emotion regulation. An award-winning professor in the University of Michigan’s top ranked Psychology Department and its Ross School of Business, he is the Director of the Emotion and Self-Control Laboratory.



In this episode we talk about:

  • What an emotion actually is 
  • The myth that we should only experience positive emotions 
  • Why sometimes avoidance is a smart strategy
  • The six emotional "shifters"  we can use to regulate our emotions
  • The role of our senses
  • How to use mental time travel to shift perspective
  • And the role of our surroundings, relationships, and culture 



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0:00.0

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0:04.7

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0:13.7

This is the 10% Happier podcast.

0:16.3

I'm Dan Harris. Hello, my fellow suffering beings. How we doing today? I am continuously amazed

0:33.2

by how many crucial life skills are rarely, if ever, taught to us during our formal

0:40.7

education. So today we're going to talk about how to regulate your emotions, which is a great example

0:45.3

of something very few of us are ever taught how to do. But there's actually a whole bunch of

0:49.6

science around the benefits of emotion regulation. It can improve your health, your performance,

0:53.9

and your relationship. And there's science around some simple practices you can incorporate into

0:58.7

your life to help you keep your shit together emotionally. Today I'm talking to one of the leading

1:03.5

experts in the field, Ethan Cross PhD. He's got a new book called Shift, Managing Your Emotions,

1:09.6

so they don't manage you. Ethan is an award-winning professor at the University of Michigan, where he serves a new book called Shift, Managing Your Emotions, So They Don't Manage You.

1:11.4

Ethan is an award-winning professor at the University of Michigan, where he serves in the

1:15.5

Psychology Department, also in the Ross School of Business, and where he directs the

1:20.4

Emotion and Self-Control Laboratory.

1:23.0

This is his second appearance on the show.

1:24.9

Last time he was here to talk about his book, Chatter, which had a huge impact on me personally. That book is all about how to rewire your inner dialogue

1:32.3

or inner monologue, depending on the circumstance. And you'll hear us reference that book in the

1:37.4

course of this conversation. We also talk about what an emotion actually is, the myth that we should

1:42.6

only experience positive emotions, why sometimes

1:45.7

avoidance is a smart strategy, which might be a little discordant to those of you who come out of

1:51.3

the mindfulness community. Ethan's concept of emotional shifters, in other words, tools to

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