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Hello and welcome to Factually, I'm Adam P.

Adam Connover. It's so wonderful to have you join me once again as I talk to an amazing expert about all the incredible things that they know that I don't know and that you don't know and to have both of our minds be blown together.

We're going to have a blast. Thank you for being here. Now this episode is a little bit different for the past month or so.

I have been hard at work filming my new Netflix show. It's called the G word. It's going to be all about how the US government works, all of its promises and perils and pitfalls.

It's going to be coming out on Netflix. We do not have a release date yet, but we are finally shooting it after being paused for over a year from COVID and I'm very, very excited about it.

Can't wait for you to see it. However, that means that we were so busy shooting. We actually were not able to record a new episode for this week.

And so instead, we are going to be rerunning one of my very favorite episodes from the past. I know what you're saying, Adam, it's a rerun.

But come on, we've been on the air here on the, on the internet, on the internet air for almost two years.

And we've had so many incredible episodes. And I think a lot of you folks haven't heard every single episode in our catalog.

And so this is a good time to, you know, dip back in and think once again about re-appreciate one of the amazing folks I've talked to.

Alright, so let's just get right to it. We are going to be presenting for you this week, my interview with Judith Grisel.

This was an incredible interview about addiction, about her journey with addiction, my own journey with drinking, with quitting drinking, the neurological background of addiction.

One of the most difficult topics in human society, one of the most complex and difficult to understand.

And one that has really impacted both of us personally, it was a really powerful episode for that reason. I thought a lot about my own experience.

I heard from a lot of you who wrote in, wrote about your experiences as well. And it's one of my favorite episodes we've ever done.

So if you haven't heard it, I very much hope you enjoy listening to it. If you have heard it, I hope you enjoy dipping into it again, because there's always, I mean, I really listened to it again for this, for this release.

And I discovered new things upon listening to it a second time. So without further ado, let's get into it.

She's also the author of a book called Never Enough, the Experience of Addiction. And you can find that, by the way, at our special book shop at factuallypod.com slashbooks.

And when you buy your book there, you will be supporting not just this show, but also your local bookstore. Without further ado, let's get to my interview with Judith Grisel.

Judy, thank you so much for being on the show.

God to be here.

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