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Optimal Protein Podcast with Vanessa Spina

The Science of 30/30/30 Protein Meals: Burn Fat & Build Muscle - Dr. Emily Lantz

Optimal Protein Podcast with Vanessa Spina

Vanessa Spina

Fitness, Health & Fitness, Nutrition

4.5758 Ratings

🗓️ 6 October 2025

⏱️ 81 minutes

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Summary

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In this episode, Vanessa sits down with Dr. Emily Lantz, Assistant Professor at the University of Texas Medical Branch and mentee of the late Professor Douglas Paddon-Jones, for a deep dive into how protein timing, distribution, and quality influence muscle health, fat loss, and long-term body composition.

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Dr. Lantz is one of the foremost researchers studying how nutrition and metabolism interact — from the 30/30/30 protein distribution model to the surprising effects of sleep deprivation on muscle protein synthesis.

They discuss:

🧠 Why spreading protein evenly across meals (30g breakfast / 30g lunch / 30g dinner) increases 24-hour muscle protein synthesis by ~25%

🥩 The "leucine threshold" and why per-meal protein targets matter more than total grams alone

⏰ How translation initiation factors remain elevated after protein-rich meals — and how this affects subsequent meals

🌙 How just one night of sleep deprivation can reduce muscle protein synthesis — and why skeletal muscle clock genes make it highly sensitive to circadian disruption

💤 How five nights of restricted sleep (3–4 hours) can impair muscle health and fat loss

🍽 Why protein intake may be more powerful than exercise alone for stimulating MPS — and how combining both creates synergy

🌿 Her latest research comparing animal vs. plant proteins and how animal protein helps moderate blood glucose more effectively, especially in high-carb meals

💪 Strategies to maintain lean mass during aggressive weight loss or GLP-1 use

If you're interested in optimizing your protein intake for fat loss, body recomposition, and muscle preservation, this episode is a must-listen.

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The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be construed as medical advice. Consult with a healthcare professional before making significant changes to your diet or exercise regimen.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Optimal Protein Podcast. I'm Vanessa Spina.

0:04.5

Hello, my friends. Welcome back to the Optimal Protein Podcast. I'm your host, Vanessa.

0:09.5

And today I am so excited to bring you a fascinating conversation with Dr. Emily Lance,

0:16.1

one of the leading researchers in protein, metabolism, and muscle physiology. She has worked alongside some of the leading researchers in protein metabolism and muscle physiology.

0:21.8

She has worked alongside some of the biggest names in the field, including Doug Patton Jones,

0:27.7

her mentor, Dr. Arnie Ferando, and Dr. David Church.

0:32.1

Her research explores how protein intake, distribution, and quality impact muscle retention, fat loss, and metabolic health

0:40.0

across the lifespan.

0:41.6

And she has a special focus on women and a special interest in women and aging.

0:47.6

In today's interview, we dive into why 30 grams of protein at our meals may be the key to maximizing muscle protein synthesis

0:57.3

spread out evenly at a 30 30 30 distribution. We talk about protein timing and distribution.

1:04.6

And if that can affect fat loss success, the surprising role of sleep and circadian clocks regulating our muscle cells,

1:13.1

why animal proteins may have some unique advantages for blood glucose control and body

1:18.8

recomposition and how to preserve muscle during phases of rapid fat loss or in more mature

1:25.4

adults who are at risk of sarcopenia. This episode is packed with

1:29.9

cutting edge science and practical takeaways for anyone looking to optimize protein for fat loss,

1:36.2

protect their muscle, and achieve lasting body recomposition. I can't wait to get into this

1:41.8

episode with Dr. Emily Lance and we will jump in right after this quick break.

1:47.6

I have recently discovered a new ketone that I love taking.

1:53.0

It has replaced my MCT oil powder that I was taking before to enhance my cognition.

1:58.4

So many of you know I've been in my sleep deprived era the last few years of being a new mom with a one-year-old and a three-year-old.

2:04.6

I just don't get great sleep. It's often fragmented and it's not consistent. It's been about four years since I've had a solid eight-hour sleep.

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