Okay, we're live. Hi, this is William Ramsey. Welcome to William Ramsey Investigates on today's show. I have two very special guests. Returning guests. We talked back in October 29th, kind of about their experiences coming out of the occult. Their names are New York Patriot and Lux. And I've kind of been following them. They've been busy. They've been a bunch of shows that I'm familiar with. I'm trying to catch up with all their research. But I reached out to them and we're going to talk about something they've been a bunch of shows that i'm familiar with i'm trying to catch up with all their research but i reached out to them and uh we're going to talk about something they've been covering or

looking into recently which is the scarlet woman and the theme of that in kind of popular culture film

etc so they're going to talk more about that so lux and new york patriot welcome back thanks for

come back thank you for coming back.

Thank you for having us on.

It's an honor.

Yeah, thank you.

Guys, for people who didn't hear our last show,

can you kind of do just a general recap of your backgrounds,

kind of leading up to, you know, your backgrounds in the cult groups

and then your research leading up to the kind of scarlet or scarlet woman theme

sure new york you want to go first uh i was an ex-member of the o't you know i left because i

just didn't feel it was a safe place and uh you know i just think it's uh you know a sigh up in itself

there's a pyramid scheme within the outside the orders, in my opinion, just like there is

outside in the regular world.

And started a podcast because I think people don't quite understand how serious the occultism

is, you know, or how much of it is in our faces.

And met Lux and then we started the occult rejects.

Yeah, a former member of the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn.

A similar story to New York Patriot began to see a lot of control and of information

while I was in the Secret Society and was generally unsettled about it and after asking a bunch

of questions from higher-ups above me, they more or less were gatekeeping information,

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