What is going on true crime fans? I'm your host Heath and I'm your host Daphne.

And you're listening to Going West hey guys man so we are living

in l.a right now we are in the midst of all these absolutely unbelievable fires actually one of them

the closest one to us is happening right now while we're sitting in our house recording um that is the

palisades fire that is sneaking

and creeping over into the valley and getting just way too close for comfort. This whole

week has been insane. I mean, our hearts really go out to anybody that has lost a loved one or

their home or, you know, all the firefighters that are working so hard and coming from different

states and different countries.

Yes, big thank you to everybody who is here helping. I mean, we've got people from Oregon,

Arizona, Mexico, Canada, everywhere. Everybody is here right now trying to help out our community.

And it's just devastating. It's just felt like where's where's the other shoe? You know, like when's the other shoe going to drop?

What's going to happen next?

Because we have never seen anything like this here.

It is unreal.

Actually, today, we're covering a California case not in L.A., but this one's in the Bay Area.

So pivoting a little bit to today's case, this is a lesser-known serial killer case that happened around the same time as a very notable serial killer case in the Bay Area in San Francisco to be specific.

Yes, and this one was recommended by Todd and Ariana, so thank you guys so much for recommending this case.

It's very, very interesting.

And I think you guys will know that this killer's

M.O. was extremely specific and very, very cryptic. Oh, absolutely. You know, there's a silly name in the

title, but that title is there for a reason because it has to do directly with that M.O. So let's

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