This episode contains descriptions of violence.

Lisner discretion is advised.

Also, just a note about this episode,

we interviewed Carly over Skype,

so the quality isn't as good in some places

as it is in others.

My mom was a police woman, so growing up,

she always told us to be aware of our surroundings,

pay attention to clues, fight back. She told me when I was a little girl, me and my sister,

if anyone ever tries to kidnap you and take you to another location, you fight, even if they threatened to shoot you, tell them to shoot you

right there because nine times out of ten if you go with them you're never going to come back.

In 2006, 23 year old Carly was working as an executive assistant at a pediatric therapy clinic.

I had just started graduate school at DePaul University so I really felt like the world was at my fingertips

and I was really excited about life.

And I just moved from a smaller neighborhood

to the South Loop, which was an up-and-coming neighborhood downtown.

So I felt very much like a big girl, an adult.

Around this time, Carly started a new relationship.

I met him once when I was a teenager and then he called me out of the blue while I was in college.

So we kind of reunited as friends and I didn't really like him.

I was like, what does this guy want?

Eel. But he was very persistent and he was really nice and we ended up just having a good

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