Girlfriends, episode number 162, the sacred that surrounds us with Andrea Zackman.

Hello and welcome to Girlfriends. I'm Danielle Bean. I'm a wife and a mom, and I'm on a mission to

help you know your worth as a woman so you can find peace, balance, and joy in family living.

This week, I'm talking with author Andrea Zackman about the beauty, meaning, and symbolism in our churches that we might just be taking for granted.

Can't wait to share our conversation with you. Let's get going.

Hey, girlfriends. How are you? Thanks for being here. Thank you for joining me for another episode of the Girlfriends Podcast. You know I love to connect with you here and I'm thrilled that we have the opportunity to do it again this week. So I've got a special guest this week that's going to be talking about her new book. Andrea Zackman is going to be joining me in just a moment here for talking about her book called The Sacred that surrounds us, which looks at all of the objects inside of a Catholic church and the deeper meaning and symbolism and history that's behind all of it that might be a little bit hidden even to those of us who are cradle catholics so great conversation coming up but first i just want to give a quick mention um of my book my newest book you are enough which i've talked about and shared about here on the podcast many times

but i know many of you are new listeners and you might not have heard yet about this book which

was released in this past fall, called You Are Enough,

what Women of the Bible teach you about your mission and worth. So I just want to share

with you that you qualify for a special discount on this book as a girlfriend's podcast

listener. If you order the book from Ascension at ascensionpress.com. The link to the book at ascensionpress.com is always

in the show notes for the various episodes of the Girlfriends podcast, this one included. So you can always go to

ascensionpress.com, check out the Girlfriend's Show Notes and get the link there. But then if you use

the code Girlfriends, when you order from Ascensionpress.com, you receive a 10% discount.

So how cool is that?

Just for listening to the Girlfriends Podcast, you qualify for that special discount.

So just briefly, the content of the book in case you're interested is the women of the Old Testament.

That's what I did.

I looked at the stories of women in the Old

Testament in writing this book and what their stories can mean for us today in our world. The world

that we live in today, which is so very different from the ancient world that these women,

that these stories took place in so long ago. And yet I found that there

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