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The Daily

The Rules of War

The Daily

The New York Times

Daily News, News

4.4102.8K Ratings

🗓️ 22 January 2024

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

In the International Court of Justice, South Africa is accusing Israel of committing genocide in Gaza. Amanda Taub, a human rights lawyer-turned-journalist at The Times, walks through the arguments of the case, and the power that the rules of war have beyond any verdict in court.

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0:00.0

From the New York Times, I'm Sabrina Tavernisee, and this is the Daily.

0:05.0

In the International Court of Justice, South Africa is accusing Israel of committing genocide in Gaza.

0:20.0

Today, my colleague Amanda Taell, on the arguments in that case, and the power that the rules of war have, beyond any verdict in court. It's Monday.

0:33.0

It's Monday.

0:35.0

It's Monday.

0:37.0

It's Monday, January 22nd.

0:42.8

So Amanda, right now,

0:47.2

so Amanda, right now, the International Court of Justice in the Hague is considering South Africa's

0:56.0

accusation that Israel is committing genocide in Gaza. You happen to be a former human rights lawyer

1:02.4

and you've been following this case

1:04.1

in the larger conversation around the rules of war.

1:07.4

And whether those rules are being broken in this conflict.

1:11.0

Both sides presented their arguments a couple of weeks ago. So explain

1:15.3

what exactly this case is. So this case I think is just the latest way in which

1:22.4

international law has really become one of the most

1:25.0

crucial lenses for understanding this conflict. Obviously it's incredibly

1:30.3

politically contentious. This is something that has just tremendously painful emotional resonance for people

1:36.5

around the world as well as very significant consequences for the people in Israel and

1:40.9

Gaza.

1:42.1

And so I think there has been a real turn to the

1:46.0

principles and norms of international law as something that can provide a neutral

1:50.5

ground and neutral framework for understanding what's going on for saying,

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