Pushkin.

It's hard to read the news these days without asking yourself, how did we get here?

Fiasco is a history podcast for the co-creators of Slow Burn.

In our first season, Bush v. Gore, we examined an unmistakable turning point in American

politics, the 2000 election, which resulted in a high-stakes stalemate, ended with one of the most

controversial rulings in Supreme Court history. So if you're trying to make sense at the present

moment, check out Fiasco, Bush v. Gore. Listen on theHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts.

From Pushkin Industries, this is deep background, the show where we explore the stories behind the stories in the news.

I'm Noah Feldman. A few weeks ago on the show, I spoke to Nobel Prizeming economist Paul Romer,

and Paul had what he considered a simple plan to reopen the economy without risking people's health. All we need to do is switch

to a strategy where we're testing everybody with regularity. As soon as we find somebody who's

positive, we had to isolate them without isolating

lots of people who could otherwise just go back to daily life and work. Paul is not alone.

Public health experts have been almost unanimous in saying that we need a lot of tests very soon

in order to protect health and eventually reopen the economy.

And yet, we are behind Germany, Canada, and even Italy when it comes to per capita

testing. And as of now, less than 1% of the U.S. population has been tested for coronavirus.

So what is the holdup? What are the bottlenecks that stand between us

and effective testing? To learn more about coronavirus testing, both for diagnosis and then for

antibody testing to see if people have already had the disease, I'm joined by Dr. Omi Garner.

He's the director of clinicalrobiology Testing for UCLA Health.

His lab does more than 1.5 million tests a year of all kinds.

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