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Witness History

The rise of the Taliban

Witness History

BBC

History, Personal Journals, Society & Culture

4.41.6K Ratings

🗓️ 27 September 2021

⏱️ 10 minutes

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Summary

The Taliban first started to gather support in the south of Afghanistan in the early 1990s. By September 27th 1996 they had taken control of the country's capital Kabul. Journalist and writer Ahmed Rashid watched their rise, from the religious schools in refugee camps on the border between Afghanistan and Pakistan, to their ultimate victory over the American-led coalition forces. He's been speaking to Zak Brophy.

Photo:Taliban fighters on the back of a vehicle in Kabul, Afghanistan, August 2021. Credit: EPA/STRINGER

Transcript

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0:00.0

Just before this BBC podcast gets underway, here's something you may not know.

0:04.7

My name's Linda Davies and I Commission Podcasts for BBC Sounds.

0:08.5

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0:18.0

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0:24.6

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0:29.7

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0:36.0

This is the Witness History Podcast from the BBC World Service. I'm Zach Brophy.

0:46.2

With the Taliban in control of Afghanistan once more, I'm taking you back to the early days of the

0:52.0

movement that is now imposing its strict rules on the country.

0:55.6

I've been speaking to Ahmed Rashid, a journalist who has followed its rise since the beginning. In the early 1990s, Afghanistan was in the grips of a brutal civil war.

1:11.0

Warlordism, banditry and lawlessness ruled the land.

1:15.0

There were reports, very vague reports of this mysterious group down in the south in Kandahar,

1:22.0

young people who were coming together and trying to end the civil

1:25.8

war.

1:27.4

And I was very interested to meet any such group and I had travelled down to Kandahar.

1:31.8

Ahmed Veshid is a Pakistani journalist based in Lahore.

1:35.3

He has been covering Afghanistan's conflicts for decades.

1:38.6

He didn't know what to expect when he went to Kandahar in the winter of 1994.

1:43.0

Many of them had been wounded.

1:45.0

Somebody had no leg, somebody had no arm.

1:47.0

Many of them who had such severe wounds,

1:49.0

they weren't even fully able to walk or carry anything or shoulder a gun.

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