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🗓️ 14 October 2025
⏱️ 18 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | A lot of investors are now taking a second look at secondaries. |
| 0:08.8 | Once a niche corner of the financial world, private equity secondary funds, which by existing |
| 0:14.3 | stakes from other PE funds, have experienced substantial growth over the past few years. |
| 0:19.5 | So what does the growth tell us about private markets |
| 0:21.5 | as a whole and what role can secondaries play in portfolios today? I'm Allison Nathan and this is |
| 0:27.0 | Goldman Sachs exchanges. Today I'm joined by my colleagues Harold Hope and Alex Blasstein. Alex |
| 0:35.2 | covers US asset managers and other financial companies for Goldman Sachs |
| 0:39.0 | Research. And Harold sits in our asset and wealth management division, where he is the global |
| 0:43.4 | head of Venge's strategies, one of the world's largest secondary fund managers. Harold, Alex, welcome |
| 0:49.4 | to the program. Thank you. Thanks for having us. So Harold, let's start at a very basic level here. |
| 0:55.0 | What is secondaries investing? |
| 0:57.1 | And tell us a little bit about the history of the space. |
| 1:00.0 | We really love the private equity model, but one of the big drawbacks is that it's very |
| 1:03.7 | illiquid. |
| 1:04.7 | And private equity investments can often last 10, 15 years or longer. |
| 1:08.6 | What we're doing in the secondaries is really providing liquidity to folks |
| 1:12.0 | who have invested in these long-dated illiquid assets before their natural termination. So if you're |
| 1:18.1 | in a private equity investment that's going to last 15 years and you want to get out in year five or |
| 1:22.3 | six or seven or eight, we'll come in and buy your interest out early and will ultimately hold it to |
| 1:27.3 | maturity. So the market |
| 1:28.8 | started really as a handful of small specialist firms who were doing a couple of transactions a year |
| 1:35.4 | from people who really needed liquidity. And it's developed into a much larger market, many more |
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