The Rise of Mexican Drug Cartels (with Ioan Grillo)

Change Agents with Andy Stumpf

IRONCLAD

Society & Culture

4.9 • 648 Ratings

🗓️ 14 November 2023

⏱️ 74 minutes

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On the edition of the Narco Wars series, Andy Stumpf sits down with investigative journalist Ioan Grillo. Based in Mexico City, he has been covering drug cartels since 2001 for news outlets such as the New York Times, France 24, National Geographic, Time Magazine, Esquire, CNN, Reuters, The Associated Press, and many others. Ioan is the author of three books: Blood Gun Money: How America Arms Gangs and Cartels, Gangster Warlords: Drug Dollars, Killing Fields, and the New Politics in Latin America, and El Narco: Inside Mexico’s Criminal Insurgency. He also helped produce the television series and documentaries Blood on the Wall, Barrios Beats and Blood, and Inside Narco Wars. You can find more of his work on his Substack, CrashOutMedia, and on the CrimeWar podcast. SPONSOR: Change Agents is presented by Montana Knife Company. Use CODE "CHANGEAGENTS10" for 10% off your first order at https://www.montanaknifecompany.com/ MTNTOUGH Go to https://mtntough.com/ and enter code CHANGEAGENTS to receive 40% OFF - a savings of about $100 your MTNTOUGH+ annual subscription. FABRIC Life Insurance Join the thousands of parents who trust Fabric to protect their family. https://www.meetfabric.com/changeagents Subscribe to the podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/change-agents-with-andy-stumpf/id1677415740 Shop IRONCLAD Apparel: https://shop.thisisironclad.com/ Change Agents is an IRONCLAD original. Visit https://www.thisisironclad.com to learn more. Be sure to subscribe to @thisisironclad on YouTube and major social platforms. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:30.0	They can be there. You can, you know, you can be in these places and see them quite openly
0:34.5	walking around in camo gear with AK-47s and grenade laws, that kind of,
0:39.5	that kind of thing. Then the military can go in there and these guys can disappear.
0:45.4	So they're not controlling a territory to the point they're sometimes stopping the military going.
0:51.2	The military can go in there. Then the guys can just disappear into the hills,
0:55.5	disappear into houses.
0:57.5	Then the military goes away and they come back out again.
1:02.0	How can I help?
1:03.0	How can I be useful in ending needless suffering?
1:06.5	Do not be afraid of work that has no end.
1:11.6	We have to organize a social movement.
1:16.6	We have an opportunity to lead, by example, versus just talking, hot air.
1:22.6	I think the more people in this fight, the more we grow, eventually you could change. The people are the ones that can make the change.
1:34.4	Good morning, everybody.
1:35.7	Welcome back to Change Agents Season 2.
1:38.3	Today, I'm going to be talking to Yohan Griot.
1:41.2	Our topic is crime, drugs, police, and gangster politics in Mexico.
1:47.0	Yohan is a British journalist, a writer, a producer, and a podcast host, and he is based
1:51.8	in Mexico City. He's been covering the drug cartels in Latin America since 2001 for news outlets
1:57.8	such as The New York Times, France 24, National Geographic, Time Magazine, Esquire, CNN, Reuters, the Associated Press, and many more.
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