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The New Abnormal

The Right Way to Fight Georgia’s Voter-Suppression Law

The New Abnormal

The Daily Beast

News & Politics

4.67.9K Ratings

🗓️ 30 March 2021

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

Goldie Taylor has been working in and around Georgia politics for decades. So she knows first-hand the kind of stunt Republicans are trying to pull with this new voter-suppression law


“What [Gov.] Brian Kemp will tell you, what other state GOP office holders will tell you, is that they've done this to restore confidence in the ballot. Poppycock. They have done it to keep people who don't look like them, church like them, live like them, away from the voting booth,” Taylor tells Molly Jong-Fast on the latest edition of The New Abnormal.


Taylor knows a lot of her out-of-state friends are outraged, too. But their calls to boycott Georgia over this law? They’re just wrong, she says. 


“Sometimes being an ally means shutting up,” Taylor continues. “As soon as this began to happen, we heard people, especially people in Hollywood say, ‘Oh, we're going to boycott Georgia until they stop this.’ Right. And both me and Dr. Bernice King stood up and immediately said, ‘No, you want to put the very people that you aim to help out of work in the middle of a pandemic. You're going to make it so that they can't recover in an effort to pay back a governor who won't feel it.’” 


“Sometimes you have to take on a whole state or a whole county or a whole country. I do believe in that,” she added. “In this case, that's not what the leverage lies. In this case, the leverage lies in the direct contributions, the financial pipeline that greases the pockets of state house Republicans. Dry it up. 


“How do you dry it up? You target their donors, big corporations: Coca-Cola, UPS, Home Depot, AT&T—all these companies who have huge footprints here in Georgia, who are pouring money into our state house. You put pressure on them specifically. But what you don't do is tell Major League baseball to take a game out of the city, because who gets hurt? The people who are selling the popcorn, who parked the cars. People who scan your tickets. The people who can least likely afford it.” 


Then! Punchbowl News co-founder Jake Sherman discusses why even people on the left need to take Jim Jordan seriously. And Talking Points Memo founder Josh Marshall talks about why “Washington is a town that is really wired for Republican governance.”





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0:00.0

Hi I'm Molly John Fast and welcome to the Daily Beast's Venue Abnormal. I'm

0:05.7

a left-wing pendant and an editor at large at the Daily Beast. We're here to

0:10.5

have fun, sharp conversations with some of the smartest people in media,

0:15.5

politics, and science that help make what's happening in the country and the

0:20.2

world clearer. Our world has been turned upside down. On the new abnormal we'll

0:26.0

talk about the people who got us into this mess and figure out how we get

0:30.3

ourselves out of it. And I'm producer Jesse Cannon and I'm here to make sure

0:34.1

everything doesn't go too far off the rails while we have fun discussions about

0:38.4

our world gone mad. And why take that duty seriously? Ourself's not so much.

0:44.7

Today we have a great episode with Josh Marshall, the founder of Talking Points

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Memo and host of the Josh Marshall podcast, as well as Goldie Taylor, the queen of

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Georgia political analysis and editor at large for the Daily Beast. But first we

0:57.1

have Jake Sherman, founder of Punchbowl News and author of The Hill to

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Diodd. And he's gonna talk to us about what's really going on in Congress.

1:04.0

Welcome Jake Sherman to the New abnormal. Thanks for having me. We're super psyched to

1:10.0

have you. I think I was like one of the first subscribers to Punchbowl. I think

1:15.1

you deserve a platinum for that of some sort. Right, I once wag. Well we have

1:20.2

swag. You know every day I have this thought which is we've gone from like

1:24.6

terrifying high stakes just this sort of very dramatic presidency to like

1:33.6

real in the weeds wonkiness. We have and that's good for us. Right. Because that's

1:39.8

what we care about. Yeah it's it's a it's a market difference. You know I came

1:44.2

from Politico where I was for 11 years and I wrote Playbook which is an

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