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me talk about her before when she gave a spectacular speech. She's the Senior Director of Policy

at the Conservative Partnership Institute, which she helped found in 2017. And before that she spent

a decade on Capitol Hill and various rules, including as Legislative Director for Senator Rand Paul.

But we just brought her on because she's a wine expert and we just thought we'd talk about

booze. No Rachel, thank you for coming on. It's great to meet you actually.

Yeah, likewise, I'm happy to be here. And you know, booze is my one transferable life skill.

So, I'm happy to talk about that too. Yes, yes, it's very dear to my heart.

You know, before we just talk about your speech and what you're seeing on the political landscape,

how did you get where you are? I mean, what was your background that made you go into

conservatism, which is guaranteed unpopularity? Nobody told me that. I think that's how I

got here. Haha, that explained everything. Yeah, the jokes on me. In reality, I had no plan to

end up in politics. I wasn't involved in it really as a high schooler, even as an undergraduate.

I did my undergrad work at Grove City College outside of Pittsburgh. And I had a professor there

named Paul Kangour, who I was a research assistant for him on a number of books that he was like,

you know, I know you're thinking about law school, but you might like DCs, try it out. And so,

he set me up with an internship. And I really never look back. I came right out of college

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