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Our American Stories

The Reluctant Minister Who Built One of the World’s Largest Prison Ministries

Our American Stories

iHeartPodcasts

Society & Culture, Documentary

4.6817 Ratings

🗓️ 12 March 2026

⏱️ 18 minutes

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Summary

On this episode of Our American Stories, Joe Garman wanted to minister to people on his own terms, and certainly not in a prison setting. As he tells it, God had other plans. He would end up forming ARM, one of the largest prison ministries in the world.

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0:00.0

This is an I-Heart podcast.

0:02.5

Guaranteed Human.

0:15.4

This is Lee Habib, and this is our American Stories,

0:20.0

the show where America is the star and the American

0:23.1

people. And to listen to the Our American Stories podcast, go to the I-Heart Radio app,

0:29.9

iTunes, or wherever you get your podcasts. Joe Garman always knew he wanted to go into ministry,

0:37.1

but on his own terms.

0:38.3

In his words, God had other ideas.

0:41.3

He first tried his hand at churches, but they thought he looked too young.

0:46.3

So he started a youth revival ministry, and through twists and turns, ended up in South Korea doing mission work with his wife, Linda.

0:56.0

Then he was asked to come speak.

0:57.8

There's some incarcerated Americans there.

1:00.6

Let's get into the story.

1:05.2

Well, one day I was in the mission house, mining my own business, I might say, and there was a knock on the

1:13.5

door and it was a military chaplain. And he had just been to that prison in Tejohn, which was a

1:23.3

huge prison. And he told me that where he was stationed, it was just too far to have to come

1:32.1

to visit that prison on a regular basis. The roads were not all that good. So he asked me,

1:39.5

he said this Wednesday, I have scheduled a 45-minute teaching session with the prisoners.

1:47.8

Would you fill in for me?

1:51.7

I said yes, but in my heart I said no.

1:55.7

I did not want to, you know, I had 13 churches to oversee in the Bible College and all these youth ministries.

2:03.0

What was I going to do going into a prison? I didn't want to get tied down in a prison work.

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