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Lost Debate

The Regressives | When Unions Sell Out Their Members

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The Branch

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4.6607 Ratings

🗓️ 3 September 2023

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

New York City’s guaranteed medical coverage for every active and retired city worker has served as a major selling point over the past 57 years for people who would otherwise choose jobs with higher wages and lower stress. In a city where over 70,000 retirees survive on pensions of less than $1,500 a month, retired or disabled workers have relied upon the city’s promise to cover 100% of their medical expenses through Medicare and Medicare supplemental insurance. But in 2021, then-Mayor Bill de Blasio made a pact with public sector unions to switch retirees from their public Medicare supplemental insurance to a privatized Medicare Advantage plan. Cited as a way to save the city hundreds of millions of dollars annually, the move meant that nearly a quarter of a million retired New York City employees — people who have risked their lives for fellow New Yorkers as firefighters, police officers, nurses, and teachers — would no longer be able to access effective or essential healthcare. City retirees have sued the city to keep their current coverage. Attorney Jake Gardener, counsel to the retirees, sat down with Ravi to discuss the case, the politics behind the city’s relationship with its unions, and why preserving access to Medicare for current and future retirees in New York is essential, not just for New York City, but people all over the country. Leave us a voicemail with your thoughts on the show! 321-200-0570 Follow The Branch on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thebranchmedia/ Follow The Branch on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thebranchmedia Follow The Branch on Twitter: https://twitter.com/thebranchmedia The Branch website: http://thebranchmedia.org/ Subscribe to our Substack: https://thelostdebate.substack.com/

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0:00.0

Hello, everybody. This is Robbie Gupta, and this is an episode of Regressives, which is a show all about how we as progressives can get better, or just how progressives generally can get better.

0:13.5

And today we're going to talk about a story of unions selling out their own members, politicians selling out the working class, and about a broken healthcare system.

0:22.1

It all centers around a legal case that's been making its way through the courts here

0:26.6

in my home state of New York.

0:28.7

And fascinatingly enough, my law school roommate or former law school roommate, Jake Gardner,

0:34.7

has been representing the plaintiffs in this case.

0:36.8

And Jake is a graduate of Yale Law School where he was senior editor of the Yale Law Policy Review after earning his bachelor's degree from Stanford University.

0:46.3

And somewhere between his time in law school, he joined the FDNY.

0:50.3

So actually, when I was jumped off to join the Obama campaign, Jake went and joined the fire department where he was a member of Latter 43 in East Harlem, eventually finished his degree in law school, wound up clerking in the district court and in the circuit court for two different judges.

1:07.9

And now as a partner at his law firm where his firm has been taking

1:11.7

on this case. I can never say your firm's name properly so you can shout them out, Jake.

1:16.2

But Jake, welcome to the podcast. Thank you. It's Waldenmont. Walden Mott. Yeah, Walden Mott. WMH.

1:22.6

Shout out to them. And this is not a legal podcast, but I love firms where like the partners do the work, you know,

1:29.0

like I've worked with firms before where they sell you on it and then they pass work down to

1:34.2

associates. And what I love about your firm is you guys, among many other things, is like you guys do the

1:39.5

heavy lifting, which is great. But okay, that's not what we're here to talk about. What we're

1:43.5

here to talk about is a promise that was made, I think starting in 1966, right? City workers, like my mother,

1:49.4

who works at a city hospital and has taught at the College of Staten Island. And so she's a two-time

1:54.9

city worker. They were promised a long time ago and continually in writing and verbally that they would get one health care plan

2:02.9

and recently the rug was pulled out under him. What should our audience know about this story?

2:09.4

There's a lot to know. I'll try to simplify it. So you're right for the past 57 or so years.

2:15.5

So Medicare, the Medicare program, the federal Medicare program, which provides

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