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Motley Fool Money

The Real Risk

Motley Fool Money

The Motley Fool

Business, Investing

4.43K Ratings

🗓️ 3 August 2025

⏱️ 21 minutes

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Summary

How can investors separate the signal from the noise? What’s the key to achieving financial freedom? And what’s the real risk investors face?Motley Fool analyst Buck Hartzell and contributor Rich Lumelleau talk with financial theorist and neurologist Bill Bernstein, author of numerous books, including The Four Pillars of Investing. The conversation covers a variety of investing topics: Advice for New Investors Misconceptions about Risk Mindset and Volatility Current Market Host: Rich Lumelleau, Buck HartzellProducer: Mac GreerEngineer: Adam LandfairDisclosure: Advertisements are sponsored content and provided for informational purposes only. The Motley Fool and its affiliates (collectively, “TMF”) do not endorse, recommend, or verify the accuracy or completeness of the statements made within advertisements. TMF is not involved in the offer, sale, or solicitation of any securities advertised herein and makes no representations regarding the suitability, or risks associated with any investment opportunity presented. Investors should conduct their own due diligence and consult with legal, tax, and financial advisors before making any investment decisions. TMF assumes no responsibility for any losses or damages arising from this advertisement. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit ⁠megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

We're human beings who evolved over millions of years of biological history.

0:11.0

The way that we react to risk or the risk that we respond to is immediate risk.

0:15.0

You know, it's seeing the yellow and the black flash of light in your peripheral vision,

0:20.0

you're hearing the hiss of a snake or the

0:22.0

roar of a lion, and you respond just like that, all right? That's the way most people perceive

0:27.9

risk in financial markets. It's the day that the market calls, falls three or four percent,

0:33.3

or when there's very bad economic news. That's not risk. Okay, that's volatility.

0:38.5

What real risk is, is living under a bridge or eating cat food when you're old.

0:51.9

That was Bill Bernstein, a financial theorist, neurologist, and author of numerous books, including the four pillars of investing, the intelligent asset allocator, and the birth of plenty.

1:03.5

I'm Motleyful producer Matt Greer.

1:05.9

Now, Motleyful contributor Rich Lumello and Motleyful analyst Buck Hartzell recently caught up with Bernstein

1:11.9

and talked risk, reward, and financial freedom.

1:16.3

Rich and I both have young adults.

1:18.3

Some people that are either getting ready to graduate or graduating college and got their

1:21.5

first job.

1:22.8

I just had 10 of those people over at our house this weekend.

1:26.2

One of the questions that they got asked

1:28.4

during that conversation as we sat down is how much do we need to save in order to be prepared and

1:33.6

reach one day financial freedom. I don't like the word retirement because I think freedom is

1:38.3

something different. You can do what you love. You don't need to retire and people aren't met to

1:42.6

sit and sit around and watch TV on their couch and stuff. How much is a reasonable amount do you think that they need to retire and people aren't met to sit and walk sit around and watch TV on their couch and stuff.

1:45.2

How much is a reasonable amount do you think that they need to save in order to reach their goals, Bill?

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