In this week's podcast, we had the pleasure of interviewing Janna Kramer. We have been following her on Instagram forever and loving the stories that she tells with her partner, her husband, through their podcast.

She is a woman who is candid about the realities of marriage, fidelity, and motherhood.

In this podcast, we asked her things we've always wanted to ask, and she was as open as we could ever imagine.

She exceeded expectations through her personality of love and fun, and we just really enjoyed talking to her.

We hope that you enjoy everything she has to tell.

We've never met in person. Have we? No. No. We were supposed to meet in person when you guys were supposed to come here.

Yes, yes. We may. Yes, yes. I honestly, I just want to drink so bad with you guys.

It's kind of like, just in my core. Every time I look at your page and I'm just following guys, even the drink challenge you guys just did, I'm just like, I really feel like we could be best friends.

Welcome to the new series, Cocktailed and Conversation with Kat and Nat.

We've decided to bring you all of these conversations with people that we like to have where there's a little bit of wisdom,

always hilarity and hilarious.

There's some famous, some just cool, some drink, some don't drink, but there's always a conversation.

Cheers, join us.

Woo!

The fun we could have, are you surviving over there?

I mean, there's so many different levels to even that question.

You know, it's like surviving. It's like, you know, it's with the COVID with everything going on with the riots and the,

it's just, there's so much happening that it's just, it's hard to stay in the bubble without any of it.

Because I mean, here's the thing, like this is, we talked about this on our podcast just the last, like today actually, but it was,

it's so hard to even know like what to say or the right words to say or to, because it's like, I never want to offend anyone and I have a hard time being a white woman saying things.

And it's just been, so that's when I call one of my African-American friends. I'm like, I don't know what to say.

You know, and I'm like, because I'm like, I feel bad posting something at my pool or I feel bad doing this.

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