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The Brian Lehrer Show

The Rapid-Fire Cancellation of NIH Grants

The Brian Lehrer Show

WNYC

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4.71.4K Ratings

🗓️ 18 March 2025

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

Why the Trump administration is rapidly canceling grants at the NIH.

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0:00.0

Listener supported WNYC Studios.

0:07.2

Brian Lairer on WMYC.

0:21.4

One of the things we've committed to doing on this show during Trump's first 100 days is a health and climate Tuesdays section of the show.

0:29.7

This builds on and expands the climate story of the week that we had been doing on Tuesdays the last two years.

0:35.9

Our thinking right now is that there are so many headlines

0:38.6

coming from the new administration.

0:40.3

We were just speaking about some of them with Andrew Weissman,

0:44.3

things that are pretty monumental on a daily basis

0:47.4

that health and climate ones risk getting lost in the shuffle.

0:51.9

Today we'll talk about the attacks

0:53.4

on the National Institutes of

0:55.0

Health and their implications for Americans' health in the space we've carved out for these issues.

1:00.7

And then later, what Ezra Klein and Derek Thompson argue for in a new book, which is a climate

1:06.7

policy based on abundance rather than scarcity, they'll explain. But the NIH first. The National Institutes

1:14.6

of Health is the world's single largest public funder of biomedical research. The agency spends most

1:21.6

of its $47 billion annual budget on developing new drugs and vaccines. Here are just some of its accomplishments

1:28.1

according to its own website and other sources. The American Cancer Society estimates

1:34.6

improvements in cancer treatment, many of which were funded and driven by the NIH, resulted in a 33%

1:42.0

drop in the cancer death rate since 1991.

1:46.2

NIH research has driven HIV testing and preventive interventions,

1:51.2

resulting in a more than 90% decrease in the number of U.S. babies born with HIV.

1:57.4

The agency played a major role in working to address the national opioid crisis by working to

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