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Welcome to the waves for Thursday, March 7th, the Rainbow Gel Pen Edition.

I'm Hana Rosen, host of NPR's and

Physilia. In the New York Studios, we have June Thomas, senior managing

producer of the late podcast network. Hi June. Hey, Hannah. And because

Noreen is already in Australia practicing her vocals at the Sydney Opera House,

we have with us today Kristen Mindser, co-host of By the Book, Podcast About, I always want to call it a wild social experiment because I know that's in your

descriptor and that's the part I feel like most captures it. Kristen, is that right?

Yeah, but you know, I often refer to it as an intersectional radical feminist show disguised

as a reality show comedy podcast that most people think is a self-help show.

Wow. Yeah that that's exactly what I was going to say. They did, if you guys you should

check out the recent episode about astrology listeners, which apparently

Christian tells me was very controversial because what, you either didn't take it seriously

or took it took astrology too seriously, one or the other?

People got pissed about both of those.

Yeah, people who really, really, really take astrology seriously felt that we didn't give

it all of the credence it deserved.

And then a lot of the people who questioned astrology

out there thought that we gave it to too much legitimacy.

In other words, you cannot win.

No, no.

But at least everyone was feeling something.

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