We just need to strip away the perfection and get to the like if I

erectionally move in this way over a long enough period of time, I will get there as long as I don't stop.

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I have an interesting question for you. So in the last podcast you mentioned that at one point in

your life, you were religious. So what made you make that switch in your head from like going from

religion, because I think you said you were on like one of those trips, I'm sorry I forgot what

they call it. What made you switch that in your head to go from this very, very spiritual belief

to like almost the complete opposite of like life is life, we die, we die. You know, a fact is fact

nihilism is a whole what made that switch in your head or was it like a long process?

I mean, it was a very long process. It was five years and it was very, very hard for me. I will say

that's the amount of messages I got from people who are Christian and Muslim and other, you know,

faiths thinking that I attacked them on the last podcast like, I don't know, I can make the

messages. Yeah, I mean, just yeah, yeah, just like yeah, and I will say this again, my statements

are not an attack on your religion. They are simply an expression of what conclusions I have come

to and I'll say right now, I'm wrong. I'm wrong. You're right. Everyone listening to what you

believe you're right. That being said, I was even going to at the time a Christian therapist

because I was like, I wanted somebody who understood therapy, but also like understood,

you know, Christianity so they could kind of like work with me on these things. And after like

a handful of sessions, she just looked at me and she was like, Alex, I think you just need to make

a decision. She's like, you just she's like, you've gathered all the data. You've gone, you've

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