This is the Athletic Football Show.

Hey everybody.

I'm Kaelin Kaler, senior NFL writer for The Athletic.

Welcome to QB2, the show where we talk to only my favorite

players in football, the backup quarterbacks. Because the backups are rarely the star of any team,

I've created a show to give them their moment to share their knowledge and stories.

QB2 is a loose term because the guys in this role are pretty regularly shifting up and down the

depth chart.

Today's guest is a great example of that because he came into training camp this year as the QB4 in Carolina, then became the two and then the one and is now the two again.

As we are recording this on Friday of week 15, he went undrafted out of Temple in 2017,

spent two years on the Colts practice squad,

and then became an XFL legend, throwing for four touchdowns in his first game as a Houston Roughneck and becoming the league's first ever star of the week.

In 2020, he signed with the Panthers, and he's been there ever since.

Welcome to the show, PJ Walker.

Thank you for having me. I really appreciate that. Yeah, it's fun. It's fun to do a little intro for you guys.

Absolutely. Learning about your careers as I prep for this is one of my favorite parts of doing these.

So first, I want to ask you, PJ, Phil, Philip, what do we, what do you prefer?

PJ. PJ. PJ. Got it. I've heard, like, coaches call you, like, Phil before or, like,

somebody said skateboard pee once, and I was like, what?

Yeah, that's a nickname I got last year. So, I mean, how did that come about? Where did

skateboard pee come from? Cam Newton, when he got here last year, called me skateboard pee. And a lot of the guys in the receiver room can't let it go. So they all still call me that for the most part. Why do you think, I mean, did you have a skateboard? What was the origin story of that? I don't know the background, but I don't know the background of it. But some guys do. And I'm far out. Some people do, but you don't. No, I don't know the background, but I don't know the background, but some guys do.

And I'm, I'm, I'm, I don't. Some people do, but you don't?

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