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The Push To Exclude Noncitizens From The 2030 Census

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🗓️ 13 August 2025

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

The U.S. undertakes the census every 10 years. Hundreds of thousands of Census workers set out to count everyone living in the U.S., regardless of their citizenship status.

That data is used to reallocate seats in the House of Representatives, redraw voting districts on the local level, and decide how federal funds should be allocated in each state.
The next one is 5 years away, and President Donald Trump wants to make big changes to the 2030 count – by excluding noncitizens. 

Why does it matter who’s counted in the Census? How would making changes to it influence the life of every person living in the U.S.?

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0:00.0

The 2030 census is five years away, but that hasn't stopped President Trump and other prominent GOP leaders from calling for changes to the national survey.

0:16.4

As shocking as it may be, far-left Democrats in our country are determined to conceal the number of

0:23.8

illegal aliens in our midst. They probably know the number is far greater, much higher than anyone

0:31.7

would have ever believed before. Maybe that's why they fight so hard. This is part of a broader left-wing effort to

0:39.0

erode the rights of the American citizen and is very unfair to our country.

0:44.3

Once every 10 years, hundreds of thousands of census workers set out to count everyone

0:49.1

living in the U.S., regardless of their citizenship status. That data is then used to reallocate seats in the House of Representatives,

0:56.7

redraw voting districts on the local level,

0:58.8

and decide how federal funds should be allocated in each state.

1:02.3

Trump announced on social media that he told the Department of Commerce

1:05.6

to immediately draw up a new census that would exclude non-citizens from the count.

1:12.4

So why does it matter who's counted in the census? And if that changes, how would it influence the life of every person living

1:17.8

in the U.S.? I'm Jen White. You're listening to the 1A podcast. That and more after the break.

1:23.6

Stay with us.

1:29.2

Let's get into the census with our panel.

1:32.0

Joining us from New York City is Dan Boutke.

1:34.5

He's a history professor at Colgate University

1:36.7

and the author of several books, including Democracy's Data,

1:40.2

The Hidden Stories in the U.S. Census and How to Read Them.

1:43.4

Dan, welcome to the program.

1:45.2

Hi, thanks for having me.

1:46.9

Also with us is Mehta Anand.

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