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Afford Anything

The Psychology of Quitting Your Job, with Dr. Tessa West

Afford Anything

Paula Pant | Cumulus Podcast Network

Entrepreneurship, Business, Investing

4.63.4K Ratings

🗓️ 30 August 2024

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

#536: NYU Psychology Professor Dr. Tessa West has spent nearly two decades studying relationships, including those in the workplace. She talks about her research on why people feel disconnected from their jobs and what to do about it. Dr. West breaks down five main ways people might feel unhappy at work: 1. Crisis of identity: This is when you've poured a lot into your career, but you're starting to question if it's really who you are anymore. 2. Drifting apart: This happens when your job changes, not you. Maybe your company's gone through some big shifts, or your day-to-day tasks are different now. Or maybe your industry has totally changed. 3. Stretched too thin: We've all been there - too much to do and not enough time. 4. Runner up: Always close to that promotion or raise, but never quite getting there. 5. Underappreciated star: You're doing great work, but no one seems to notice. Dr. West digs into each of these, explaining what they look like and why they happen. She talks about how work relationships are a lot like romantic relationships — just as you might feel disconnected from a partner, you can feel the same way about your job. She describes a matrix that shows how satisfied you are with your job versus how much you identify with it. She also gets practical stuff, describing how to manage distractions at work and be more productive. There's a neat concept called "working spheres" that might help you organize your tasks better. If you're thinking about leaving your job, Dr. West suggests doing some self-reflection and networking to learn about other industries or companies. She warns that there's often a lot of "hidden" stuff about jobs that you won't find in the job description, so it's essential to dig deeper. At the end, she talks about how to figure out if a new job will actually be better. Her main tip? Ask tough questions in interviews. Don't be afraid to dig into the not-so-great parts of the job or company. Dr. West doesn't sugarcoat the tough parts of work life, but she offers practical advice for dealing with them. Whether you're happy in your job or thinking about a change, you'll find something useful here. Timestamps Note: Timestamps will vary slightly on individual listening devices based on dynamic ad lengths. 1:09 - Dr. Tessa West. Psychology professor. Workplace relationships. 3:10 - Five major ways people feel disconnected from work. 4:55 - Work relationships mirroring other relationship types. 9:04 - "Crisis of identity" at work. 13:40 - Matrix: job satisfaction vs. identity centrality. 18:20 - "Drifting apart" from your career. 21:40 - Common changes causing career drift. 25:55 - "Stretched too thin" at work. 29:35 - Managing external work disruptions. 31:40 - "Working spheres" for better productivity. 37:37 - "Runner up" at work. 40:29 - Common reasons for not getting promoted. 47:51 - "Underappreciated star" at work. 51:18 - Next steps if unhappy at work. 55:56 - Determining if a new job will be better. For more information, go to https://affordanything.com/episode536 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Do you suffer from the Sunday scaries?

0:02.6

When you think about your job, your work, do you feel this existential dread,

0:08.0

this sense of on ree?

0:10.0

Well, if so, Dr. Tessa West, a psychology professor at NYU, is here to help.

0:17.0

Welcome to the Afford Anything Podcast, the show that understands you can afford anything, but not everything.

0:22.0

Every choice carries a trade-off and that applies. you can afford anything but not everything.

0:23.0

Every choice carries a trade-off

0:24.7

and that applies to your time, your focus,

0:27.3

your energy, your attention

0:28.9

to any limited resource you need to manage.

0:31.4

This is a show all about optimizing those trade-offs. My name is

0:35.8

Paula Pant. I trained in Economic Reporting at Columbia and I help you focus on what

0:40.8

matters. My guest today, Dr. West is a psychology professor who has spent years,

0:47.0

nearly two decades, studying human relationships, first in the context of relationships, and now in the context of the workplace, and now in the context of the workplace.

0:57.8

And she joins us to talk about five signs or five different ways that you might be

1:03.7

disaffected with your work. Welcome Dr West.

1:06.7

Thanks so much for having me on the show.

1:08.6

Thank you for being here.

1:10.0

Can you tell us about the research that you did that led to the framework of five major ways in which people feel a sense of disconnect from their work?

1:20.0

Yeah, so when I decided to kind of set out and organize people's psychological starting points,

1:26.0

I came out of from the perspective of someone who's been studying relationships for years.

1:31.0

I think most of us know what it feels like when we're looking at the person next to

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