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Psychology In Seattle Podcast

The Psychology of Josh Powell (Chapter 10 - Diagnosis)

Psychology In Seattle Podcast

Kirk Honda

Mental Health, Health & Fitness

4.61.2K Ratings

🗓️ 10 June 2024

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

Dr Kirk Honda and Humberto provide a deep dive on the tragic disappearance of Susan Powell, along with Josh’s suicide, the children’s murder, and Josh’s father’s depravity.

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00:00 Update on the 911 operator
03:42 Video clips of Susan & Alina's perspective
18:32 The dark tetrad & Steven's conceptualization

41:17 Steven's possible attachment injury

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June 10, 2024

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0:00.0

Hey deserve listeners, this is chapter 10 in our deep dive on the psychology of Josh Powell.

0:05.6

This is the final episode in this series in which I provide my conceptualizations of both Stephen and Josh, my hypothesized diagnoses.

0:17.0

I can't diagnose from afar, of course, but I can hypothesize based on the data available to us.

0:24.1

But first, I want to talk about something

0:26.6

I forgot to talk about in the previous episode.

0:29.1

So you remember the 911 operator that took the call from Elizabeth Griffin Hall, the supervised

0:35.8

visitation worker who was outside Josh's house calling frantically and how the

0:42.4

911 operator seemed indifferent, incompetent,

0:48.0

something. Well, an update on that individual, that 911 operator, is that apparently now he is teaching classes

0:59.2

on how not to do what he did.

1:02.4

He's teaching classes to other 911 operators and specifically he

1:07.0

talks about compassion fatigue. You know for us non-psychopaths we have empathy

1:11.7

we care about others we have altruism and we have compassion and

1:17.2

typically people who enter certain careers have even more empathy and more compassion like a 911 operator or a therapist or a

1:26.4

first responder. These people tend to choose these jobs because they want to

1:31.6

make a difference and they care. And they do their job and there's a lot of opportunity to experience some intense situations where people are suffering and you care, so you're trying to help. But over time, and there's a lot of different pathways to this and there's protective factors and da da da.

1:53.8

But you could imagine somebody becoming fatigued in their compassion.

2:00.9

They don't have any more compassion left by Wednesday, say, you know, they're

2:08.0

working Monday and Tuesday and by Wednesday, they're all compassioned out and

2:12.3

when we measure that in terms of behavior and the

2:17.0

reports from the individuals and there are measures and this sort of thing but what

2:22.0

happens is we become overloaded and we might be experiencing secondary PTSD or it might just be burnout just the feeling of, I'm overwhelmed, it's too much, I keep trying to help and

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