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🗓️ 15 September 2025
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...And also, pizza. Kind of. This might be one of the coolest parts of Virgil ever, and even though I’ve been reading the Aeneid since high school, I feel like I only just figured it out. One of the most famous lines of the poem—forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit, “one day it will be pleasing to remember even these things—finds its answer in Book 7, when Aeneas arrives on shore and has to face the possibility of war with the, erm...indigenous Latinx peoples. So much to discuss, here, and a great mailbag question about how to deal with situations you can’t change.
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| 0:00.0 | The prophecy has been fulfilled. |
| 0:05.0 | All right. I need your help. |
| 0:15.4 | Calling all young heretics listeners, bat signal going out across the lands. |
| 0:22.4 | Somebody needs to tell me where that line the prophecy has been fulfilled comes from. Because obviously there's a million different |
| 0:28.6 | movies and books and epic poems in which prophecies get fulfilled. It's a major theme of all |
| 0:35.7 | of literature. We're going to talk today about a bunch of |
| 0:39.3 | prophecies getting fulfilled in the Ania. That's why the line was in my head the whole time I was |
| 0:43.4 | preparing for this episode. And I kept thinking like, this is a meme. This is a thing that I see all |
| 0:48.2 | over the internet. Elon Musk tweeted it one time. People attach it to all sorts of silly news stories. I've seen it, like, |
| 0:56.0 | associated with cartoon network shows, like Team Titan and a bunch of different things. But then when I |
| 1:01.8 | put my internet sleuth hat on and I went to like know your meme.com doing very serious academic |
| 1:08.8 | research. And I tried to figure out where is the original source of |
| 1:12.6 | this line? Where is there a movie or a book or a text where somebody says that specifically |
| 1:17.5 | and that kind of tone? Not ironically as a quotation and not in a meme, but as an actual |
| 1:23.2 | statement about a prophecy that is getting fulfilled. And for the life of me, I could not find |
| 1:29.2 | one. I feel like this is like a meme without a source. Like it's just a vibe or an attitude or a |
| 1:34.9 | thing that happens a lot in our experience. And so we say it all the time as a catchphrase, |
| 1:40.0 | but I can't find anywhere where it actually occurs in a text. Again, lots of prophecies get |
| 1:48.3 | fulfilled in the Bible, in epic literature, in the Inead specifically. We're going to talk about |
| 1:53.1 | that today. But where does this actual meme come from? Because maybe I'm just getting old |
| 1:57.8 | and I don't know how to use the internet anymore or something, |
| 2:01.9 | but I can't find the original source of that line. More to the point, more importantly, |
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