From my perspective, Trump took America first into America alone.

Hi, I'm Ian Bremmer, and welcome to the GZero World Podcast, an audio version of what you can find on

public television, where I analyze global topics, sit down with big guests, and make use of

little puppets. This week, I'm talking with Montana governor and Democratic presidential candidate

Steve Bullock, the very rare, heck even endangered political animal who convinced voters in a deep red state to go blue.

But he's polling around 0% and that didn't qualify him for this month's debate.

So I'm asking the question. Can he pull this off? Let's get to it.

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Governor Montana, Steve Bullock.

It's great to be with you.

Good to be with you, sir.

You are running for president.

I am.

Which is an objectively ludicrous thing to do.

I mean, at what point did it become obvious to you that, my God, I'm actually making this decision.

Me personally, I'm going to say that I can be President of America.

Yeah, and certainly wasn't, even as I was serving initially as governor.

It wasn't the thought, I'll be governor of a state, I'll run for president.

It was sometime after the 2016 election.

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