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Inside Briefing with the Institute for Government

The Prisons Crisis Strikes Back

Inside Briefing with the Institute for Government

Institute for Government

News, Politics, Government

4.6252 Ratings

🗓️ 23 October 2025

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

Prisons nearly bursting. Court cases backlogged. Prisoners released early. It couldn’t happen again, could it? Former BBC journalist and Labour adviser Danny Shaw joins the podcast team to discuss a brand new IfG report into the state of the criminal justice system. In another difficult week for the government, the inquiry into grooming gangs has run into problems after at least four members of the victims and survivors panel quit in protest at how the government has handled the process so far. Can Louise Casey fix it? Plus: Prince Andrew, the Royal family, and the government. What happens next?   Catherine Haddon presents. With Alex Thomas and Cassia Rowland.  Produced by Milo Hynes. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Prisons nearly bursting, court cases backlogged, prisoners released early. It couldn't happen again, could it?

0:15.4

I'm Catherine Hadden and this is Inside Briefing, the podcast from the Institute for Government.

0:20.7

Well, the crisis in the

0:22.1

criminal justice system was one of the most pressing problems facing the Labor government

0:26.3

when it took office last summer. Reviews were commissioned into sentencing and trials, and a lot of

0:31.8

prisoners were controversially released early. It was a big call by then Justice Secretary,

0:37.1

now Home Secretary, Shabana Mahmood.

0:39.6

Well, a brand new IFG report has dug deep into the state of prisons, courts, policing and more.

0:45.3

And you've guessed it, it's all looking pretty bleak. We're going to speak to its author about how

0:50.9

bad things could get and what, if anything, new Justice Secretary David

0:54.9

Lamy can do. And that's not the only story on the Home Affairs beat this week. The government's

1:00.2

inquiry into grooming gangs has run into problems after at least four members of the victims

1:04.9

and survivors panel quit in protest at how the government has handled the process so far. So a lot to

1:10.5

discuss and a very good week

1:11.8

to be joined by Danny Shaw. The BBC's former Home Affairs correspondent, a former advisor

1:16.8

in opposition to then Shadow Home Secretary Yvette Cooper, and now a freelance commentator.

1:23.1

Hi, Danny. Is Home Affairs ever a quiet beat as a journalist?

1:26.5

It's never quiet. There are always

1:29.1

scandals. There are always unexpected events coming up. And then there's always the sort of

1:34.8

steady drumbeat of crime stories and obviously immigration, which has been a major issue

1:41.7

for successive governments. And one of the issues that historically

1:45.2

has led to the downfall of Home Secretary's and Immigration Ministers.

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