I'm here with a very special woman because I'm gonna be really honest.

When you're on a reality show and you're in Hollywood, there aren't especially in the

beginning stages like the first few years of being on a reality show.

There aren't that many people in the industry that are gracious and nice to you and listen

to you or take you a little bit seriously.

I met you up, I feel like four years or five years ago and I was really struck with how

wonderful you, my guest, Kat Sadler was and I've always felt like, how'd you get that

way?

How are you not jaded yet?

Oh, well, I got how long ago was that?

I'm probably more jaded today than I was when I met you.

Five years ago.

It was about five years ago.

Well, I could say the same about you by the way.

You're a very, very cool gal and I have met a lot of people long away who are not and

you do meet them and you're like slightly disappointed or whatnot.

But you know, that's life, that's people, that's what makes the world go round.

But how am I not jaded?

I mean, listen, I'm from the Midwest.

Maybe that's part of it.

Listen, I know a lot of people from the Midwest who are assholes.

Well, okay, good, we'll scratch that off.

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