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The Power of Dissent

Velshi

MS NOW, Ali Velshi

Government, News, Versant Media, Weekend News, Ali Velshi, News Commentary, Versant, Politics, Ms Now

4.7793 Ratings

🗓️ 21 February 2026

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

Ali Velshi is joined by former federal judge, J. Michael Luttig, Rep. Adam Smith (D-WA), and Rep. Don Bacon (D-NE).

Transcript

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0:00.0

On January the 27th, 1838, before the young men's Lyceum of Springfield, Illinois, a 28-year-old

0:15.8

Abraham Lincoln delivered what we now call the Lyceum address. He warned, quote, if destruction be our lot,

0:23.3

we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of free men, we must live through all time

0:29.8

or die by suicide, end quote. Lincoln was not warning about foreign invasion. He was warning

0:36.4

about national self-destruction.

0:39.1

Nearly 188 years later, Judge J. Michael Ludig has issued a warning of his own.

0:44.3

Not about armies abroad, not about adversaries overseas, but about constitutional erosion from

0:50.2

within. Ludig, you will remember, is a modern-day patriot. He had foreknowledge of the

0:55.0

plan to upend the results of the 2020 election. He also said January 6th was no riot, no protest that

1:00.9

spun out of control. January 6th was the entirely predictable culmination of a deliberate lie,

1:06.6

the lie that the election of 2020 had been stolen. It was a sophisticated and coordinated effort

1:12.1

to disrupt and potentially discard a lawful and peaceful transfer of power. In the hours before

1:18.2

January 6, Judge Ludig advised Vice President Mike Pence that the Constitution did not

1:23.6

permit the election to be overturned. Lutig did not equivocate. He did not invent some

1:28.9

authority. He simply upheld the law, not because doing so would be a popular move for a longtime

1:34.3

conservative Republican jurist because it wasn't. That move cost him friends and earned him death

1:41.0

threats. Lutig did it because it was right. Last week, when accepting

1:46.0

honorary membership in the New York City Bar Association, Judge Lutig, drew a straight line

1:50.8

from that moment, January 6th, to this one. He argues that we never fully reckoned with what January

1:56.8

6th represented, not politically, not legally, not culturally, and that failure to reckon

2:02.8

with it is not new in our history. In fact, at the founding of the Republic, Thomas Payne warned what

2:08.1

happens when power is abused and left unanswered. In 1776, he wrote,

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