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Uncivil

The Portrait

Uncivil

Gimlet

History, News, Society & Culture

4.84.2K Ratings

🗓️ 27 December 2017

⏱️ 29 minutes

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A listener voicemail sends us deep down the rabbit hole into one of the most toxic myths of the Confederacy. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

A little while back, we put out a call for voice mails.

0:03.9

We asked you to tell us your civil war stories, the myths that you wanted us to take on,

0:08.8

or the family lore you wanted us to investigate.

0:12.0

You shared a lot of great stories, but there was one in particular that got our attention.

0:16.5

Hi, my name is John Sims.

0:20.6

I have a really conflicted past with this thing.

0:24.2

When I was a teenager, I was a part of an organization called the Funds of Confederate Veterans.

0:28.5

And, you know, over the course of like two, three years as I was a teenager, I slowly

0:32.8

came to realize how terrible this evil really was and how messed up the Confederacy wasn't.

0:39.2

So I don't know.

0:40.2

This is up to just really like close to my heart.

0:42.7

And if you want to talk to me some more, give me a call.

0:44.9

My number is f***ing.

0:46.7

Thank you.

0:50.0

When it comes to the Civil War, most people's opinions are pretty fixed.

0:54.0

How often do you hear about someone actually listening to new information and then completely

0:58.3

changing their mind?

1:00.1

We knew this was a story we had to hear, so we called John up and asked him to start at

1:04.4

the beginning.

1:06.1

So I grew up in a little town just north of Lubbock called Earth Texas, flat, empty sort

1:13.5

of country town populations about 2,000 people.

1:17.4

Like every time I tell people that I was from Earth Texas, they'll just say, I'm from

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