The Pope & The Führer: The Secret Vatican Files with Michael Knowles

The Catholic Talk Show

Religion & Spirituality, Religion, Christianity

4.6 • 1.4K Ratings

🗓️ 25 August 2025

⏱️ 49 minutes

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In this episode of The Catholic Talk Show, Ryan & Ryan are joined by Michael Knowles from The Daily Wire to explore the truth about Pope Pius XII's actions during WWII and how he helped to save hundreds of thousands of Jewish lives. Episode 331: In this episode, we will discuss: • How Did Pius XII's get falsly accused of being "Hitler's Pope"? • How The KGB used propaganda against the Church during the Cold War • How many lives did Pius XII & The Church save during The Holocaust? • How Files in Vatican Secret Archives show the truth • and much more 00:00 Introduction to Pope Pius XII and His Legacy 02:34 The Historical Context of Pius XII's Papacy 05:26 Pius XII's Actions During World War II 08:05 The Myth of Pius XII as Hitler's Pope 10:56 The Role of Propaganda and Historical Revisionism 13:41 The Vatican's Diplomatic Challenges 16:40 The Impact of Modern Ideologies on the Church 19:22 The Search for Truth in Historical Narratives 22:16 Pius XII's Relationship with the Jewish Community 24:47 The Future of the Church and Its Traditions 27:41 Conclusion and Reflections on Pius XII's Legacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:15.0	Hey everybody, welcome back to another episode of the Catholic Talk Show.
0:19.0	Today we got a special guest, Michael Knowles.
0:21.3	We're going to be talking about Pope Pius the 12th,
0:24.0	whether or not he was the Fuhrer's Pope.
0:27.1	That's right.
0:27.8	We're going to take a look at the exciting new project Michael's put together,
0:30.7	where he looks into the Vatican secret documents around World War II,
0:33.7	and hopefully once and for all dispels the myth of Pope Pius to 12th being Hitler's Pope. Welcome back to the show.
1:00.0	Michael, really excited to hear about this topic.
1:01.9	It's good to see.
1:02.6	I think the last time we interviewed you was in Hollywood six years ago.
1:08.0	So like I said before, it's great to be back. I just, I think we need to do this
1:13.9	more frequently than twice a decade or whatever we're at now. It's good. Now, fully out of
1:20.0	Hollywood, left Gamora by the sea, happily ensconced here in Nashville, Tennessee. I wondered if
1:24.9	there would be any Catholics in Tennessee. Turns out probably the most
1:29.2	vibrant, not only Catholic, but specifically trad Catholic community. I think that I've ever been
1:34.8	around. So it's great. This matches national trends. Everyone seems to be becoming Catholic
1:40.5	these days. And they're a little more interested in the smells and the bells
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