From the New York Times, I'm Sabrina Tavernisi. This is The Daily.

A series of text messages released in the last week show Ginny Thomas, wife of Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas,

urging White House officials to push to overturn the result of the 2020 election.

The text prompted calls from Democrats for Justice Thomas to accuse himself from cases that involve that election.

Today, investigate a reporter Joe Becker on the story behind those texts and how the

Thomas's went from the fringes of the conservative movement to the very center of it.

It's Wednesday, March 30th.

Joe, we've been hearing a lot about texts sent by Ginny Thomas about overturning the 2020 election.

You're an investigative reporter for the Times, and you were already covering the Thomas's,

looking into their backgrounds, their lives, before these revelations came out.

What were you trying to understand about them?

Well, we started an investigation into the Thomas's more than nine months ago, and we did that because there's been a kind of open

secret in Washington about Ginny and Clarence Thomas.

For decades, the two of them have been waging this sort of battle.

He from the bench and she from the political trenches against what they see as the liberal order.

And what's fascinating about this joint battle is that since the founding of the nation, there has never been the spouse of a sitting Supreme Court

justice who has been as overt a political activist as Ginny Thomas has.

And it presents a real conundrum for the court.

Ginny Thomas has insisted that she and her husband operate in separate professional lanes.

But what we found is that those lanes in fact merge with notable frequency.

And we really wanted to kind of delve in more deeply to understand just what kind of conflicts that represents.

Well, take us through their history. How did the Thomas's meet?

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