Hello there and welcome to the podcast of Lotus Eases episode 1,322. On Monday the 22nd of December 2025, we are only, only a few sleeps until Christmas now.

So I hope you've all got your presents under the tree. I hope you've got your stockings out.

And I hope you don't forget on Christmas Eve to leave out a mince pie

and some carrots and a cup of warm milk for Santa and his reindeer's, folks,

because it's that jolly festive time of the year.

And in celebration, I'm joined by Bo.

All right.

And our first ever appearance of Lucy White.

Hello.

Notorious for racism. And Bo first ever appearance of Lucy White. Hello. Notorious for racism.

And Bo is going to be...

Bo is going to be confronting her on such as...

That's a joke. That's a joke.

Don't worry. Today we're going to be talking.

You're not racist enough.

Yeah, yeah.

Bo is going to be interrogating her say, you need to get more extreme.

You need to start really throwing out the zingers.

That's what Bo does.

No, we're going to be talking about respect for ancestors and the attempts to distort people's views and understanding and connection to their ancestors. Bo is going to be telling us about how we don't actually need a position on foreign conflicts.

It's a bit more nuanced than that, but sure. We'll go with that.

Close enough. And we're also going to be having a general discussion about Parliament and the sorts of people who should be in Parliament, which I'm

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