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The Big Leap

The Plant Medicine Episode

The Big Leap

Gay Hendricks & Mike Koenigs

Self-improvement, Health & Fitness, Freedom, Decisions, Mental Health, Business, Relationships, Genius, Education, Success, Beliefs

5707 Ratings

🗓️ 18 September 2020

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

Imagine if you could completely and totally connect with God. What if you could experience the deepest most profound sense of love, connection and bliss you have ever imagined? Mike's done it and he can tell you what he’s about to share could be both uncomfortable and VERY controversial, so fasten your seatbelts and keep reading... Gay Hendricks and Mike Koenigs have a real doozy episode for you this week on The Big Leap podcast... This is Mike's most vulnerable episode and public share to date. Here's what Mike had to say. "Three months ago, I wouldn’t consider publicly sharing this - but it’s too important not to. A few weeks ago I was invited to join in a very sacred ceremony led by several medical doctors and shamans on ancient Native American grounds in the New Mexico desert. It's an experience called 5-MeO-DMT. This is a psychedelic of the tryptamine class found in a wide variety of plant species, and at least one toad species. What was it like? Terrifying. Awe-inspiring. Beautiful. Pure love. A direct connection to God or creator. Out of body. Complete elimination of a sense of self and ego. Melting away any emotional and physical pain. A rocketship to pre-creation. In the “mind” of God. Before matter, time, space and light. Then... I woke up to a blood curdling, primal scream of emotion. Of love, fear and awe. That scream that woke me up… It was ME. It was as if my “animal” was reuniting with its spirit. All of this happened over a period of 25 minutes. Imagine pouring an entire planet into a thimble. That’s what that scream was - the human brain and body simply cannot contain a universe that’s billions of years old in it’s “container.” Intellectualizing this experience is a disservice to something very ancient and very sacred. As I sobbed and laughed and cried and laughed some more, I never felt so much divine love and connection than in that moments that had just passed. It was the most profound experience of my life. There's a tremendous reawakening and resurgence of psychedelics, entheogens and other plant based materials that is attracting the world’s leading scientists, physicists, astrophysicists, doctors, quantum scientists and the medical community. If you do some research, you’ll find major colleges and hospitals are investing heavily in using psychedelics to reduce or eliminate mental illness. Tim Ferriss donated $3mm to the Johns Hopkins Center for Psychedelic & Consciousness Research and Imperial College London. I don't regard 5-MeO-DMT as a drug. It is a profound sacrament and if there was ever something that was divinely created it is this. Despite the world’s governments and leaders creating the “War on Drugs” and associating “drugs that kill you” (alcohol, tobacco, heroin, cocaine and much of the pills that are consumed) with “drugs that can save and change your life” (5MEO, psilocybin, MDMA), this is ancient. Amazonian natives have been using entheogens, so did the Greeks, Egyptians, Vedics and other cultures for millennia. When I was 18, I tried smoking marijuana and it sent me into an absolute pit of terror that to this day I still have massive trauma associated with it. I stayed away from all substances. But to my uneducated mind that didn't know the difference between a recreational drug and something that's deeply spiritual, like 5-MeO-DMT… I didn't have the ability to discern and I didn't want to trigger an old trauma.

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0:00.0

Hey, this is Mike Kainigs, and welcome to the plant medicine episode of the Big Leap podcast with Gay Hendrix.

0:08.5

Gay, this is a big one.

0:10.0

We really dive into some wacky stuff this time.

0:12.9

Yes, and in some ways, this is our most vulnerable one yet, because we talk about some things that are not often talked about in situations like this. So I really

0:22.0

want people to tune in and see where you go with this because it's very controversial material.

0:27.6

Join us for the Big League podcast. All right.

0:46.2

Hello and welcome to the Big Leap podcast with Gay Hendricks and Mike Canings. I'm Gay Hendricks and we have a sizzler for you today.

0:51.4

Mike, let's tell us a little bit about it.

0:58.4

Well, about a week ago today. Mike, let's tell us a little bit about it. Well, about about a week ago today, I did something that I never thought I'd do. It's an experience called 5MEO DMT. And the best way to put

1:09.0

this is imagine if you could completely and totally connect with God

1:16.9

or whatever you call the highest being

1:19.6

and experience the deepest and most profound sense of love and connection.

1:25.9

And then on the way out, experience or witness what would be like the Big Bang.

1:35.2

And as you reemerge, in other words, what is happening is you are completely egoless

1:41.7

and in a total state of union.

1:44.0

And then when you return, it's as if you were trying to... you are completely egosess and in a total state of union.

1:51.6

And then when you return, it's as if you were trying to pour an entire planet into a thimble,

2:00.4

because you experience the universe in all its complexity, all of its awe, all of its terror.

2:05.9

And as you reemerge, it's like your spirit is reuniting with your body.

2:12.7

And I can remember at that moment, probably the most profound second that, or at least,

2:19.6

emergence was I heard this blood-curddling primal stream that was like,

2:25.0

just from head to toe.

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