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This is CBSI in the world I'm John Bachelor with Professor Sean McMeacon at

Bard College, his new book Stalin's War. A new history of World War II. How

what we regard as the Second World War was a product of Stalin's

manipulation and cold bloodedness. We come now to May 3rd 1939. Hitler is a

threat to all of Europe, everywhere. He's a threat to Stalin as well. However,

Stalin means to convince Hitler that they can work together in some fantastic

way. Ideologically it doesn't work but bloody mindedness in both Hitler and

Stalin. May 3rd 1939, the NKVD aka the KGB State Security, surrounds the foreign

ministry, arresting the foreign minister himself, Liptenov, and all of his

staff who are Jewish. Molotov, the gangster, a colleague of Stalin's from

signing death warrants during the great purges of the thirties and they will

continue. Becomes the new foreign representatives of Stalin to Hitler.

Sean, why did they arrest Liptenov? He'd been an E in accomplished

both of them all these years. Well, he had been certainly useful for a time

being when it came to things like public relations. On part because he was

Jewish and he was abused for being Jewish in these kind of Nazi propaganda

caricatures. And he had come to seem the face of you might say the more

respectable Soviet foreign policy image that is that the Soviets were

anti-fascist because of the popular front. They were devoted opponents of Hitler

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