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The Brian Lehrer Show

The Pitfalls of Cannabis Legalization

The Brian Lehrer Show

WNYC

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4.61.5K Ratings

🗓️ 11 February 2025

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

One perspective on the results of cannabis legalization in several U.S. states from an author of a piece in the Atlantic that argues "Legal Weed Didn't Deliver on Its Promises."

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0:00.0

It's the Brian Lairn Show on WNYC. I'm producer Amina Serna filling in for Brian today. Welcome back, everyone. When states began legalizing recreational marijuana, it was supposed to be a win-win.

0:23.8

The black market would shrink, tax revenue would pour in, criminal justice reform would take

0:29.3

a major step forward, and cannabis would become a safer, more regulated product.

0:35.5

But more than a decade later, my next guest argues that win-win hasn't

0:39.7

materialized. A recent article in the Atlantic argues that legal weed hasn't lived up to its

0:45.7

promises. The piece points to a sharp rise in daily cannabis use, particularly with the spread of

0:51.8

high-potency products that differ significantly from what was on the market decades ago.

0:57.1

It raises concerns about public health, profit motives, and questions whether the criminal justice benefits have been as far reaching as some advocates predicted.

1:08.2

Joining me now, Keith Humphreys, Professor of Psychiatry and Behavioral Sciences

1:13.1

at Stanford University, author of Addiction, a very short introduction, and a member of the

1:19.2

Stanford Network on Addiction Policy. His piece in the Atlantic co-authored with Jonathan Culkins

1:25.5

is legal weed didn't deliver on its promises.

1:29.2

He'll unpack his argument and talk about where he feels legalization may have gone wrong.

1:34.6

Professor Humphreys, welcome to WMIC.

1:37.3

Thanks very much for having me.

1:39.2

You and your co-author on this article, Jonathan Calkins, write that the promises of marijuana legalization,

1:46.0

quote, have turned out to be overstated or simply wrong, end quote. What were the biggest

1:53.3

expectations and how do you think the reality has fallen short? Yeah, probably helpful to say

2:00.2

where the point of you were coming from is not to say,

2:04.2

you know, we should or shouldn't legalize, we have.

2:06.7

That's reality.

2:07.7

And the question is, how do you make it work better?

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