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CBSI in the world. I'm John Bachelor.

Sophie Petter is the author of Revolution Franca,

the quest to reinvent a nation.

This is Emmanuel Macron's political biography. We've spent moments with his childhood

and his beloved drama teacher who becomes his beloved wife, the First Lady of France now.

But it's important to identify where he learns politics

and how he interprets that today.

He found a party in April of 2016 called On Marsh, on the move.

And he founds it by going back to Amyan.

And there's a moment that it's clear in Sophie's book nobody's quite inspired but why he goes

to Amyan he has no relationship with it well he left Amyan when he was 17 years old I

believe and went off to finish his school his back in Paris but then

he was interested in becoming a literature not a politician whatsoever and Sophie this is another one of those moments where you speculate in the book.

He could have been the novelist that he wants to be.

He's written three novels that he won't show to anybody but Brigitte. He's extremely well

educated in French literature in international literature, but he fails to get

into the school where all the literary superstars of France go. Instead he gets into Science Poe. What is Science Poe to

the French?

A sort of Humanities University which is, you know, very selective and is seen as a stepping

stone to moving on to a sort of postgraduate, you know, top postgraduate schools in France.

So Paris-based, quite elite, very selective and a stepping stone to certainly to political life

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