Oye, oye, oye, oye, welcome to the Judge John Hodgman podcast, I'm your guest

bailiff, John Roderick. This week, the Perp Walk. Lisa brings the case against her

J-walking boyfriend, Mitch. She says that his method of crossing streets is irritating to her

and dangerous too. Mitch says that sometimes J-walking is appropriate and even safer than crossing

at a crosswalk. Who's right? Who's wrong? Only one man can decide. Please rise as Judge

John Hodgman enters the courtroom. Don't cross the street in the middle in the middle in the middle

in the middle of the block, don't cross the street in the middle in the middle in the middle in the

middle of the block. Use your eyes to look up, use your ears to hear, walk up to the corner when

the coast is clear and wait and wait until you see the light turn green, don't cross the street

in the middle in the middle in the middle in the middle of the middle of the block. But do swear

them in, guest bailiff, John Roderick. Lisa and Mitch, please rise and raise your right hand.

Do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God

or whatever. I do. I do. You swear to abide by Judge John Hodgman's ruling despite the fact

that he is in no way a jurist as undertaken no study of the law is admitted to no professional

association nor passed any state bar is recognized by no federal nor foreign agency and derives

his authority entirely and exclusively from his status as a grandiose former minor television

personality. Yes, I do. Yes, I do. Thank you. Judge Hodgman, you may proceed.

Thank you very much, guest bailiff John Roderick. We are joined Lisa and Mitch today by John Roderick

of the Long Winters and the Roderick on the Line podcast. As our guest bailiff is Jesse Thorn

is once more a wall. I don't know where he is. He he just shed his bailiffs uniform sitting

in the middle of the courtroom floor right now mysteriously and I guess he's running nude

through the prairie somewhere. But luckily John Roderick is here to join us. Thank you, John.

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