The Perils of the Trump Cases

Lost Debate

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🗓️ 3 May 2024

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Ravi welcomes Amy Davidson Sorkin from The New Yorker to the show to explore the legal challenges of the various cases against Donald Trump, including the immunity case before the Supreme Court, and the potential consequences of a conviction before the election. They then turn to Joseph Fischer v. United States and discuss how the Supreme Court might rule on whether prosecutors can use federal obstruction laws to charge individuals involved in the January 6 Capitol attack. Tim Daly, founder of The Education Daly and CEO of EdNavigator, then joins Ravi to explain why experts considered Finland the exemplar of quality education for many years and what we can learn from its steep decline. Ravi and Tim talk about how Finland's education system impacted advocacy around No Child Left Behind and why it's important to develop a deeper understanding of what drives educational success. Leave us a voicemail with your thoughts on the show! 321-200-0570 Subscribe to our feed on Spotify: http://bitly.ws/zC9K Subscribe to our Substack: https://thelostdebate.substack.com/ Follow The Branch on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thebranchmedia/ Follow The Branch on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thebranchmedia Follow The Branch on Twitter: https://twitter.com/thebranchmedia The Branch website: http://thebranchmedia.org/ Lost Debate is also available on the following platforms: Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-lost-debate/id1591300785 Google: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy5tZWdhcGhvbmUuZm0vTERJNTc1ODE3Mzk3Nw iHeart: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/269-the-lost-debate-88330217/ Amazon Music: https://music.amazon.co.uk/podcasts/752ca262-2801-466d-9654-2024de72bd1f/the-lost-debate

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0:00.0	Welcome to The Lost Debata Show for Politically Ecclectics. I'm Ravi Gupta, and this is a fun and extensive episode. We have two very different guests on today. I'm going to first talk with Amy Davidson Sorkin, who's from the New Yorker, and we're going to talk all about the Trump cases. And for those of you who are conservative listeners, you may be like, oh, a New Yorker writer talking about the Trump cases. I know where this is going.
0:21.4	I promise you, she's going to Yorker writer talking about the Trump cases. I know where this is going.
0:21.4	I promise you, she's going to surprise you by some of the things she has to say. And then I'm
0:26.6	going to talk to Tim Daly all about education. He's an education expert and former practitioner. And
0:32.3	we're going to talk about an argument that was dominant in the education debates. And that has
0:36.9	kind of gone away, but is kind of a little
0:39.5	zombie argument that shows up here and there, and that has pretty dramatically shaped some of the
0:44.0	opinions of key decision makers on education. And we're going to talk about what that argument is,
0:49.6	why it's important, and why Tim thinks that people have it totally wrong.
0:56.8	And so we'll get to that later on.
1:00.0	But first, let's start with Amy and the Trump cases.
1:01.0	Let's jump in.
1:10.9	All right. I'm excited to welcome on Amy Davidson-Sorkin, who's been at The New Yorker.
1:12.9	I can't believe this since 1995.
1:15.4	You've been writing about the Supreme Court this turn.
1:24.3	This is perhaps the most involved Supreme Court calendar I've ever seen, and there are more high-stakes issues before the court than certainly in recent memory.
1:28.0	Amy, you've written about two different cases of significance recently.
1:32.6	One is the January 6th case, and the other is the immunity case that we heard last week. Let's start there. What was the question before the court in this immunity case? The question was how
1:40.4	susceptible to prosecution, prosecutable, a former president is for things he did while he was president, to criminal prosecution.
1:51.2	The way it's sort of sometimes portrayed is that Trump wants a complete, out of nowhere, get out of jail, free card.
1:58.8	He thinks that he's mistaking the presidency for kingship.
2:03.0	He thinks that he should not be touchable no matter what he did,
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