This is Hidden Killers Live with Tony Bruske, Stacey Cole and Todd Michaels.

Chavon Scott is with us right now.

We are talking about the perfect neighbor, the doc that's on Netflix right now,

that talks about the Susan Lorenz case,

where she ended up shooting her neighbor because she didn't like the sound

of children playing outside and viewed her as a clear and present danger. It's, it is an absolutely

crazy story. Race is something that gets brought up very, very commonly in this case, in this story

specifically. But I want to,

I want to walk that back for a second and just, I guess, ask the question, does race play a huge

role in this? Or would this have been the same story? Had these kids been all white, had these

kids been, you know, anything, really? Is it, Is it just the fact that there was another entity, another human being or multiple

human beings around her that irritated her?

Was it about race in this?

Or was it just more about you are making me uncomfortable?

And I just want peace and quiet no matter what.

It's hard to say.

It's hard to say without talking to her about her beliefs.

If I had to make a guess, I would say that, yeah, she was probably pretty deeply racist because of the things that came out of her mouth.

And she would

use racial slurs at the kids. So people who have these tendencies to look for, you know, I was

talk about the us and them about, you know, us that we like are people like us, that them are the

people who are different from us that we

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