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Getting Curious with Jonathan Van Ness

The Patriarchy Playbook: How America’s Gendered Hierarchy Endures with Anna Malika Tubbs

Getting Curious with Jonathan Van Ness

Sony Music

Science, Self-improvement, Comedy, Education, Society & Culture

4.921.5K Ratings

🗓️ 9 June 2025

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

This week on The Monday Edit, we have a very special guest joining in on the Monday fun: best selling author Anna Malaika Tubbs stopped by to tell us all about her new book, Erased: What American Patriarchy Has Hidden from Us and helps us hone in on real time examples of our Patriarchy is being weaponized today. Anna unpacks how the United States has constructed a unique—and often invisible—gendered hierarchy, one that is inextricably linked to whiteness and a deeply flawed binary system. From the founding fathers to the current Supreme Court, from the erasure of women in the Constitution to the ongoing fight for the Equal Rights Amendment, Dr. Tubbs reveals the mechanisms that have kept women’s contributions hidden and their voices suppressed. Anna Malaika Tubbs is a scholar, advocate, and bestselling author (The Three Mothers: How the Mothers of Martin Luther King, Jr., Malcolm X, and James Baldwin Shaped a Nation) whose work brings a fresh, urgent perspective on American history and its gendered systems. With a Ph.D. in Sociology and a Masters in Multidisciplinary Gender Studies from the University of Cambridge and a Bachelors in Medical Anthropology from Stanford University, Anna translates her academic knowledge into clear and engaging stories. Her articles have been published by TIME Magazine, New York Magazine, CNN, Motherly, The Huffington Post, For Harriet, The Guardian, Darling Magazine, and Blavity. Anna’s storytelling also takes form in her talks, including her TED Talk that has been viewed 2 million times, as well as the scripted and unscripted screen projects she has in development. She lives in Los Angeles with her husband, former Mayor of Stockton, CA Michael Tubbs  and their three young children. Not A Phase. Trans Lifeline Follow Anna Malaika Tubbs @annamalaikatubbs Follow us on Instagram @gettingbetterwithjvn Jonathan on Instagram @jvn and senior producer Chris @amomentlikechris New video episodes Getting Better on YouTube every Wednesday. Senior Producer, Chris McClure Producer, Editor & Engineer is Nathanael McClure Production support from Julie Carrillo, Anne Currie, and Chad Hall Our theme music is also composed by Nathanael McClure. Curious about bringing your brand to life on the show? Email [email protected]. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hey Better Babes, it's Jonathan Van Ness and welcome to the Monday Edit.

0:05.2

This week like every week, I'm joined by our senior producer, Chris.

0:07.7

Say hi, Chris.

0:08.5

Hi, hi.

0:09.1

We're here breaking down the news, pop culture, TikTok drama, beauty wrecks and expanding on the topics we're covering over on getting better.

0:15.3

That show drops every Wednesday here on the podcast feed and on YouTube in its full glory.

0:20.1

I hope that you not only survived your

0:22.5

weekend, but thrived in your weekend, got your rest relaxation. I hope you got your party on. I hope

0:27.9

you're feeling gorgeous. I hope your June is working for you. If you're a teacher, I hope you're

0:33.2

enjoying a well-deserved summer break where you can because, wow. If you're a nine-to-five icon,

0:39.5

I hope you're on a half-day summer Friday situation filled to the brim with happy hours

0:44.2

or like afternoon solid core or like some self-care thing that you like to do, not that it has to be

0:48.8

physical because it could just be like going on a walk or laying and playing Fortnite. I don't want

0:52.2

to like movement shame anybody. Like I'm obsessed with you guys.

0:55.2

Anyway, we got to enjoy so we can defeat this GD patriarchy, which reminds me.

1:01.5

That's really the theme for this episode right here.

1:04.0

We are talking all about the patriarchy today and what it's doing to wreak havoc on our lives with author Anna Malika Tubbs,

1:12.8

who just dropped her new New York Times bestselling book, Erased,

1:17.7

what American patriarchy has hidden from us.

1:20.8

I'm obsessed with her, you guys.

1:22.1

If you're a long time listener of the pod,

1:24.0

you will remember that we had her on in like circa 2021.

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