I've really welcomed Dan Snow's history. You'll have seen in the news recently, on the

television news, on the internet, elsewhere, people are talking about the pathnom free

is again. What people in Britain until very recently knew as the Elgin marbles, the beautiful

adornments taken from the pathnom in Athens by Lord Elgin in the 19th century shipped to

Britain and now showcased in the British Museum. These have been controversial since the

moment they were removed by Elgin and brought to Britain. Why did they do that? Do they

have permission to do it? What are they doing in the British Museum and should we give

them back and by we? I mean, who's we? Who decides whether or not they're sent

degrees? What should we do with artistic and cultural treasures that are in some ways

in their legacy to all mankind? But in other ways, have a particular connection to a place

and a time. They were sculpted in 5th century BC Athens at the height of the Athenian

Empire, a place bursting with self-confidence, energy, wealth and imperial might. Perhaps

not uncoincidentally, they were transferred to London when London was experiencing its

imperial apogee as well. And Londoners and Brits in general found it very exhilarating to

compare themselves to the ancient empires of Greece and Rome. To help us navigate all of

these issues and talk me through how the Greek government has been proactively attempting

to recover these treasures since the 1980s. I'm joined by Nick Malkutsis and Georgian

Naku. They're two journalists, their contributors, their lovers of Greek history and they're both

contributors to McCropolis.gr. So English language website for everything, Greek politics

and history, you're going to love it. And they've also got their English language

podcast all about Greek politics, society, history and everything called the Agara. Obviously.

Thank you very much to Nick and Georgia, come on the pod. And actually by the end, folks,

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