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Miki back! This is hell.

your eyewitness to grief, this is hell.

What if I were to tell you there is a product that contributes to equatorial tropical

deforestation which threatens biodiversity, releases viruses that can cause

pandemics and greatly contributes to CO2 emissions that cause climate change,

a product that you use and consume every day but as rarely if ever discussed in the media

or anywhere for that matter.

And what if I told you the reason it's rarely brought up in the media is because if it is those

reporting on the product and how it's produced often face threats and intimidation

from the very powerful industry.

And as our guest today reports, those kinds of an intimidating tactics should come as no surprise

when you consider the corruption and exploitation that is rife

through the industry both today and throughout its brutal history. Worse yet, the amount of this resource

being produced and the swaths of forests being burned, releasing unknown viruses warming the planet and

destroying biodiversity to cultivate it, is growing at a massive and

alarming rate with no end in sight other than the end of the planet

Earth as we know it.

Problem is if we stop using this product entirely, developing economies in the most marginalized peoples will be the ones who suffer the most.

We'll consider the many contradictions of palm oil in a few when we speak with environmental writer and editor Jocelyn C Zuckerman

author of Planet Palm how Palm Oil ended up in everything and endangered the world

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