Coming up on the Pestown podcast with the news that the peer review of the Oxford vaccine is going well, how soon could we all be getting a vaccine against COVID-19?

What role will Black Lives Matter play in the US election?

And if we have a surge in coronavirus in England, will Nicholas Sturge and the First Minister

really insist that the English people going to Scotland have to go in a quarantine for 14 days? All this and more with the First Minister of Scotland,

Nicola Sturgeon. The Health Secretary Matt Hancock, De Rae McKesson, one of the founders

of the Black Lives Matter movement in the US. And my two other guests, Saeed Avarsi, former chairman of the Tory party, and Peter Kyle, senior Labour MP.

Coming out first at Hancock.

I began by mentioning to him that earlier today I'd revealed, in fact, that the peer review due to be unveiled in the Lancet of Oxford's coronavirus vaccine seems to be pretty positive.

So I asked him whether that meant we could have a vaccine as early as September when apparently the production capacity will be available and how when

we get the vaccine it'll be distributed to all of us?

Well that's a really important question. Just before I answer it, of course vaccine technology

is risky and there is no guarantee that one will work and I the timescales that you mention are on the optimistic end.

But the question of how you then distribute it is obviously critical.

And in the first instance, it will go to people who have the highest clinical need.

And then essentially, because this disease is most damaging to the oldest,

we will go down the age scale. And we've set out at very high level, the principles of the

order in which people will get the vaccine.

So who gets it absolutely first, the most vulnerable people?

The most clinically vulnerable and the oldest, and also healthcare workers,

because they are much more exposed than others.

That's the principle set out by the independent committee who oversees these things,

and on the clinical evidence.

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