I can't believe it.

Max has asked me to move in with him.

I mean, you practically live with each other already, but that's great.

Did you hear that, Joe?

Yes, thanks for letting us know.

I see you've updated your universal credit claim.

Now you're going to be living together.

If you're telling other people about a change in your circumstances, tell us too to avoid a

penalty. Search tell DWP.

Hello and welcome to the Retro Hour podcast episode number 68, your weekly dose of retro gaming

and technology news with me, Dan Wood.

And me, Ravi Abbott. And there'll be no giggling at next week's show, title one with number 69, all right, Ravi. Okay, would it be like leisure suit, like Ree Special or something? So thank you so much for checking out this week's show, guys. If you are new to the show, this is a podcast where we talk about, you know, 8 and 16 bit machines, stuff like the Sega Mega Drive, Commodore Amiga, Synclus Spectrum.

32 bit as well?

Yeah. where we talk about, you know, 8 and 16 bit machines, stuff like the Sega Mega Drive, Commodore Amiga, Sinclair Spectrum. 32 bit as well? Yeah, like the early PlayStation era, Sega Saturn. But how far do you think we can go down? Like, I know in Reddit, they say, 2000, anything past 2000 is not retro. Well, this week, we've got a very interesting guest because he does kind of, you know,

span pretty much, you know, the entire era that we cover and quite a bit more.

And this week, we're going to be joined in the second half of the podcast by Ed Freeze.

Now, Ed is an absolute legend.

He was the Microsoft VP of Games Publishing.

So, yeah, you remember kind of Microsoft. They used to do a lot of games publishing, stuff like Motorcross Madness and Age of the Empires and stuff with the early DirectX stuff. Well, what came out of the DirectX? Obviously, the Xbox. Yeah, there you go. Now, this is a thing, I mean, you know, if you go on like 4chan's retro gaming channel on there and also Reddit,

they all say, you know, the Xbox, original Xbox is not retro, so they don't let people talk about it. But then, you know, we look through Ed's history in this interview we've got coming up with him. The development on the Xbox started about 1998, 99. So you're talking nearly 20 years ago now. Yeah, it's crazy. And he's also done retro ports of big Xbox

titles like Halo. Back to the Atari 2,600. Now, we've got to get the story of that. And also,

he was there obviously when Microsoft launched Windows 95, a pivotal point. And that was probably

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