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Inside the Hive

“The Only Winning Move Is Not to Play”: Vanity Fair's Tech Correspondent on How to Beat Social Media

Inside the Hive

Vanity Fair

News

4.21.5K Ratings

🗓️ 1 October 2021

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

This week, Vanity Fair tech correspondent Nick Bilton speaks with cohost Joe Hagan about the recent leaks from Facebook that reveal the company knew of the toxic impact of their platforms, including Instagram, on users, especially teenage girls. In a world in which the social media giants—FAANG, or Facebook, Amazon, Apple, Netflix and Google—are too rich and powerful to be contained by limp political and regulatory systems, “we’re left to the wolves,” says Bilton. After covering the social media world for a decade, Bilton says the only way to beat the media giants is to hack the system—ourselves—by reprogramming our behaviors, which are the literal coins of the social media realm. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Welcome back to Inside the Hive, this is your co-host Joe Hagen.

0:40.0

Today, very special day, we have back with us right here, the OG, the original, post of

0:49.0

Inside the Hive.

0:50.0

Aren't you supposed to curse when you say OG, like the motherfucking OG, or like, isn't

0:55.1

it?

0:56.1

I like that you're using the MF word right off the bat, like, you know, not even giving

1:01.1

the listener time to hide the children.

1:06.2

We are here today, we're going to talk about a specialty of yours, at least as a reporter,

1:12.8

social media, something you have covered for years, done documentaries about, written

1:18.7

books about, and that obviously is in the news right now for reasons we're going to

1:23.8

talk about.

1:24.8

I just want to start off by telling you a quick, confessional anecdote, which is like

1:29.4

last weekend, I ran into a friend of mine on the street, and we got into a conversation,

1:36.6

we were catching up and started to lament, you know, the existence of social media, especially

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