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Hey, this is Alexis Haines. Join me every Monday for a new episode of my podcast

we're covering from reality. Whether you're on the road to recovery, seeking self-care techniques

for surviving the capitalist machine, or just need a moment to remember that you're not alone

in your loneliness. I'm here to deliver intimate conversations and expert insights to empower you

on the road towards authentic wellness. So, are you ready to recover from reality?

Hi friends and welcome to the Papaya podcast. I'm your hostess Trianne Hermostis,

Sara Nicole, and each week I'm going to be dishing out some sweetness mixed in with some seeds

of wisdom or something like that. So get ready to get inspired, get candid, get real because we

are all in this digital space together. All right everyone welcome back. Today is going to be

a spicy episode and I mean that in the best way possible because last week, I guess when you're

listening to this it'll be two weeks ago. A certain someone made a post talking about if thin

white women were taking up the space of the body positive movement removing and white washing

essentially this body positive movement meant for marginalized bodies rooted in so much more

history than I don't think many of us even realized. And I think everyone was expecting me to be

offended but instead I was actually incredibly empowered by this and it's going to change a lot

of the ways that we have these conversations. So welcome Rafela. She is the poster herself. She

is the person that we are going to have and truly like guys everyone thinks that this was like

such a shame cycle and I didn't feel that I actually feel like this opened up doors of conversation.

She's a disruptor. She's blown up on social media for this in good ways and in bad and I'm so

happy to welcome her to the podcast today. So Rafela welcome. Oh my gosh thank you so much Sarah

for having me here. I am so grateful that you're using your voice to amplify others. Yeah and this

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