The following podcast is a dear media production.

I'm Claire Mazer and I'm America Cerulo and we are the hosts of a thing or two with Claire and

Erica, a weekly podcast all about discovery and enthusiasm. Well, that's how we describe it,

but someone else described it even better, I think, as a unique mix of urgent discussions of

non-urgent things and thoughtful conversations of important and otherwise ignored things.

If you want to check it out and see what it's all about, check back every Monday where we drop

new episodes. I think you'll like it. It's a great Monday morning ritual. I think you're

too with Claire and Erica. Hi friends and welcome to the Papaya podcast. I'm your hostess,

trying her most, Sarah Nicole, and each week I'm going to be dishing out some sweetness mixed

in with some seeds of wisdom or something like that. So get ready to get inspired, get candid,

get real because we are all in this digital space together.

All right, well, welcome back everyone. This is my second attempt at a virtual recording and I'm

really excited because today is actually all about the fact that we are in quarantine. We need

this time at home, but we're also shifting who we are, what we're doing. There's so much pressure,

especially on women right now to kind of do it all, be it all. And so we're going to have a

conversation about how we can do that with maybe some little extra questions and learnings along

the way. So please welcome Lisa column. Thank you so much for having me. All right, so your story

is like we could just got a dive in there because when I first was looking at you as a good guest,

there were things I really loved about expertise that you would kind of bring to the table, but your

story in and of itself is so incredible because I find a lot of times what happens when we talk about,

you know, motivating women to getting to business and to entrepreneurship. It's all this mindset of

if you just believe it, you can do it. And it really rips apart this idea of privilege of having

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